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#1 Miro

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 09:00 PM

At the moment WATCHOUT doesn't work in Windows 10. We are working on a solution and will release an update as soon as possible. This issue has our highest priority and we expect to have a solution in March-April. Until then we recommend Windows 7 Professional. We apologize for any inconvenience!

 

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#2 Sydney

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Posted 03 February 2016 - 11:49 PM

At the risk of asking a really dumb question, what are the benefits of running Windows 10 for Watchout 6 over Windows 7 Professional?

Obviously W7Pro will go end of life at some point.



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Posted 03 February 2016 - 11:56 PM

At the risk of asking a really dumb question, what are the benefits of running Windows 10 for Watchout 6 over Windows 7

Professional?

 

Obviously W7Pro will go end of life at some point.

 

There are no benefits to running Windows 10 - all down side, no upside.

 

As for Windows 7 Pro going end of life,

Microsoft won't end security updates for your Windows 7 PC until Jan. 14, 2020.



#4 Sydney

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 12:07 AM

Four more years!

Wonder where we'll be with Windows in 2020?



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Posted 29 February 2016 - 06:27 PM

I'm just wondering if we are only talking about the Display software here?  I run production on Windows 10 just fine.  Anyone else?



#6 Pertti Jaasaari

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Posted 01 March 2016 - 05:16 AM

I'm also running production software on Windows 10 and the only problem for me has been media drag&drop that stopped working in Wo 5.5.2. Wo 6.0.2 is running smoothly.



#7 Mike Fahl

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Posted 01 March 2016 - 02:17 PM

The Win10 problem seems confined to the display software.

 

I'm not aware of any "media drag&drop" problem. Do you mean that dragging media files into WATCHOUT from Windows Explorer doesn't work for you under Win10? Does it work for you under other Windows version? 



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Posted 07 March 2016 - 02:51 PM

I have my Production computer with Windows 10 and I can't set up the audio outputs, I can see on the menu the sound devices but I can't select it. Tried with WO 6.0.1 and WO 6.0.2. I would like to know if it's something related to WO 6 and W10 or something I have wrong on my system. With other computer with W7 works fine.



#9 Miro

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 01:42 PM

Quim, we will investigate this. What sound card are you using? Does the same sound card work in windows 7 with WO 6 Production?



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Posted 05 April 2016 - 09:31 AM

when will work watchout in win 10?

 

I can't buy win 8.1 anymore because win 8.1 discontinued now.

 

http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-discontinue-windows-7-8-1-on-new-pcs-in-one-year/

 

maybe i will buy few package at open market but can't buy already at online market.



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Posted 05 April 2016 - 02:40 PM

WATCHOUT Production will run on Win 10 with some minor annoyances.

WATCHOUT Display is not yet ready for Windows 10.

Selecting an OS for a display computer is different set of concerns than production.

 

...

I can't buy win 8.1 anymore because win 8.1 discontinued now.

http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-to-discontinue-windows-7-8-1-on-new-pcs-in-one-year/

....

 

That is not exactly true.

Seems Microsoft practically runs PR campaigns

to convince people they must switch to the latest version. The press are their lackeys.

 

The reality is Microsoft's largest and most important clients do not evolve that fast,

and Microsoft does not abandon them. i.e.

 

Microsoft continues to make Windows 7 Professional and Windows 8.1 Pro

available to PC builders.

 

While there is no feature enhancement in older Windows versions,

security is maintained for four more years on Windows 7.

Not that security updates are needed -

 

point is the older OS versions

are not as "dead" as you make them sound.

 

When purchasing Windows 10, be sure to purchase the Pro version.

Microsoft provides downgrade rights for either Windows 8 Pro or Windows 10 Pro.

i.e. purchase Win 10 Pro and you can install Win 7 Professional under the Win 10 Pro license.

 

As it relates to WATCHOUT Display, part of the process of

evolving a generic PC into a reliable dedicated WATCHOUT appliance

involves reformatting the disc drives and installing the OS from scratch.

Switching OS versions at that time should not be any signifiant issue.

or you could skip all that hassle and choose a Dataton WATCHMAX -

Windows 7 Professional, all  the tuning is completed and archived, and Dataton support   ;)



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Posted 10 April 2016 - 08:57 PM

I have my Production computer with Windows 10 and I can't set up the audio outputs, I can see on the menu the sound devices but I can't select it. Tried with WO 6.0.1 and WO 6.0.2. I would like to know if it's something related to WO 6 and W10 or something I have wrong on my system. With other computer with W7 works fine.

Hi all, 

same problem on my production-notebook with win10: If I play a wav-file I get a direct show error that pops up in watchout. In preferences I can choose the audio-device, but it always switches back to "no device". Funny thing is that mp4-videos with sound play ok and I can hear the sound. It just seems to be the wav-files that do not work. I tried a reinstall of the audio-driver and also of Watchout, no change. 

 

Other than that I have a feeling that WO-production runs more stable since I upgraded the computer to Windows 10. No luck with Wo-display, that definatly does not work on win10. 

Regards, 

Michael. 



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Posted 12 April 2016 - 09:31 AM

Hi all, 

same problem on my production-notebook with win10: If I play a wav-file I get a direct show error that pops up in watchout. In preferences I can choose the audio-device, but it always switches back to "no device". Funny thing is that mp4-videos with sound play ok and I can hear the sound. It just seems to be the wav-files that do not work. I tried a reinstall of the audio-driver and also of Watchout, no change. 

 

Other than that I have a feeling that WO-production runs more stable since I upgraded the computer to Windows 10. No luck with Wo-display, that definatly does not work on win10. 

Regards, 

Michael. 

Yes Michael,

 

That's what is happening to me. I worked fine with W8.1 but not with W10.



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Posted 18 May 2016 - 11:18 AM

Hi all, 

same problem on my production-notebook with win10: If I play a wav-file I get a direct show error that pops up in watchout. In preferences I can choose the audio-device, but it always switches back to "no device". Funny thing is that mp4-videos with sound play ok and I can hear the sound. It just seems to be the wav-files that do not work. I tried a reinstall of the audio-driver and also of Watchout, no change. 

 

Other than that I have a feeling that WO-production runs more stable since I upgraded the computer to Windows 10. No luck with Wo-display, that definatly does not work on win10. 

Regards, 

Michael. 

I have exactly the same problem. Now converting audiofiles (wav, aif, mp3) into movs.

Regards, Danny



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Posted 03 June 2016 - 02:23 PM

I have WO6.0.2 on my MacBook via Parallels, I upgraded to W10 a while ago now and for the production so far it has been stable (ish) and i'm generally impressed.

However I have just downloaded the update to WO6.1.1 W10 will not let me install the update (not even in compatible mode) what can I do.

I wish I had seen this forum before I let W10 install itself. Gutted! Please help Dataton when will the W10 update happen I need it.



#16 Miro

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Posted 07 June 2016 - 04:44 PM

ChrisBingWO, is it windows that doesn't let you install or what error do you get? Running windows 10 native on a system is very different from running it virualized. I'm using W10 for production all the time on all of my computers and I don't have this problem.

 

If it's a certificate issue (windows sercurity) than you should have the option to install it anyway. If you for any reason don't have this option you can always bypass the windows security by opening the terminal as admin and run the installer from the terminal.



#17 Miro

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Posted 07 June 2016 - 07:19 PM

Regarding the display software, Microsoft is working on solving the multi display bug and will hopefully include the fix into the Windows 10 anniversary update.



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Posted 16 June 2016 - 04:13 PM

Hi all, is there some upgrade regarding compatibility of WO6 with WIN10?

 

Thanks for your support.



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Posted 16 June 2016 - 04:40 PM

Hi all, is there some upgrade regarding compatibility of WO6 with WIN10?

 

Thanks for your support.

 

The issue is a bug in Windows 10 multi-ouptut DirectX 3D full screen rendering.

WATCHOUT can not overcome the flaw in Windows 10.

Microsoft has acknowledged this bug is confirmed and will be fixing it in the future.

As to when that future is going to happen, your guess is as good as ours.

 

As is often the case with Microsoft's operating systems,

it is not until the first major revision that they get it right.

Exact same thing happened in Windows 8, which is not compatible with WATCHOUT either.

They cleaned up the problems in Windows 8.1, which can be made to work with WATCHOUT.

Although Windows 7 is still preferable.

Windows 8.1 has no improvement from a WATCHOUT perspective,

and has plenty of additional things you do not want and must tune out.



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Posted 16 June 2016 - 04:47 PM

The issue is a bug in Windows 10 multi-ouptut DirectX 3D full screen rendering.

WATCHOUT can not overcome the flaw in Windows 10.

Microsoft has acknowledged this bug is confirmed and will be fixing it in the future.

As to when that future is going to happen, your guess is as good as ours.

 

As is often the case with Microsoft's operating systems,

it is not until the first major revision that they get it right.

Exact same thing happened in Windows 8, which is not compatible with WATCHOUT either.

They cleaned up the problems in Windows 8.1, which can be made to work with WATCHOUT.

Although Windows 7 is still preferable.

Windows 8.1 has no improvement from a WATCHOUT perspective,

and has plenty of additional things you do not want and must tune out.

 

Thank you for your fast reply!

 

If I understood we should wait the "Windows 10 anniversary update" that should came up at the end of June / beginning of July.. I will keep my fingers crossed.

 

Tnx







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