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  1. What I want to say is; it would be interesting to see details of a test with one video playing it 6 times on two machines that are differentiated only by the GPU.

     

    It is pretty safe to say the GPU will make no difference specifically as it relates to video playback.

    If it does make a difference, then the issue should be corrected elsewhere,

    like a motherboard that has throttled throughput when an x16 gpu slot is operating at only x8, etc.

     

    Provided the GPU can accept the decoded streams from the CPU,

    and any compliant six output DirectX accelerated card can do that,

    then the minimum graphics processor performance

    to service six outputs is more than adequate.

     

    And we often see graphics card memory capacity used as a reference,

    but in the case of video, there is way more than enough memory.

    i.e. you can NOT buy a compliant six output GPU

    that does not have enough memory for video playback,

    no matter how small it is,

    cuz they just don't offer less than enough memory on any six out GPU.

     

    The GPU comes in to play executing tween tracks,

    and even then only the more complex functions

    like keying, live tweens, masking, etc. truly stress the GPU.

     

    As it relates to tweens and masking GPU speed / throughput,

    become critical factors and memory capacity is a very rough gauge of that metric.

    GPU speed / throughput is the area the w600 comes up short, not so much memory capacity.

     

    If you can specifically define content and do not sway from that,

    you could get away with economizing on certain components.

    For a system solely functioning as a synch roll server,

    with no keying / masking / etc., just simple scaling and positioning,

    will work with as many outputs as a compliant GPU offers.

     

    On the other hand, if you never play more than

    one or two HD video at a time (scaled over multiple outputs if need be)

    and the rest is large full color depth bitmaps with sophisticated

    tween, keying and masking manipulations,

    cpu is almost irrelevant and GPU is everything.

    i.e. an i5 would be fine in that restricted role.

     

    The high end hardware CPU / GPU recommendations are

    aimed at providing the minimum content restrictions in all aspects.

    Accept content restrictions and you can tune down sub-sytems to

    most economically service the task.

     

    In all cases, disc storage throughput is a benefit,

    so it is never wise to economize in that area when driving six outputs.

     

    An i5 cpu is not going to adequately service six concurrent, quality, HD movie decodes.

  2. I don't think so?? Not sure? I was looking for the solution to my W600 problem and this site came up.

     

    :D The name of this forum at the top of the page is " DATATON FORUM  → WATCHOUT FORUM ".

    It is a product specific forum for the multimedia software - DATATON WATCHOUT.

     

    Therefore hardware discussions you see here are specific to Dataton WATCHOUT,

    which uses Microsoft DirectX 3D at its core.

    Issues with other software that may use OpenGL

    or Eyefinity groups are typically a different set of rules,

    as those functions are unrelated to WATCHOUT.

     

    You should contact AMD directly.

    The AMD/ATi FirePro w600 is from AMD's professional division

    and their direct technical support is pretty good.

    Much different than the tech support from the consumer Radeon line,

    make sure you contact the correct division for assistance.

  3. HI anybody know if the folling will work on watchpax

    Accel - UltraAV® DisplayPort to DVI Multi-Monitor Adapter

    want to outport 2 screens per watchpax if i can

    thanks

    mark

     

    when I first saw this post I thought the fabled AMD DisplayPort 1.2 MST hub had finally come to market.

    But that is not what it is.

     

    The specificaitons are telling, quite significant limitations:

     

    Typical maximum resolution: 3 monitors @1280x1024 (3840x1024)

    · Supported monitor frequency: 60Hz

    · DisplayPort 1.1a compliant

     

    Seems to accept a single channel signal from the GPU,

    and then internally breaks it up on its own.

    What appears to be a maximum 1024 pixel height seems quite a limitation.

    And WATCHPAX tops out at 2560 width, so that 3840 width would not be acheivable.

    The non-standard resolution needed, say 2560x1024, may very well be an issue,

    possibly the box has EDID support to overcome that, but I would not be hopeful for that.

  4. Couple of those deserve some clarification ....

     

    Well while we're at it here are a couple I'm sure a fair number of us would like to see.

     

    -Live control of elements please. Remove the need for updates.

     

    This does exist, just not in the form you are asking for.

    Live tweens provide live control of elements during the performance playback now.

     

    -Automatic connecting and reconnecting (in case of network failure) to production computer as well as auto sync to what is happening in the production computer. ...

     

    This exists under cluster control which is normally associated with the playback / delivery of the show.

    Under watchmaker control, i.e. show assembly, the programmer determines when to reconnect a display.

    Has been that way since v2.

  5. Hi...

    Can my PC use Watchout 5.1?

     

    PC Spesifications:

    (DISPLAY) aka watchpoint

    PROCESSOR = Intel QuardCore

    MOBO = Gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L

    VGA = NVIDIA Geforce GT 210 1GB DDR3

    RAM = 4 GB

    HDD = 500GB

    (PRODUCTION) aka watchmaker

    PROCESSOR = Intel Core i7

    MOBO = Gigabyte Gigabyte GA Z77M-D3H

    VGA = NVIDIA Geforce GT 220 512MB

    RAM = 16 GB

    HDD = 2TB

     

    There is nothing in the information provided that would suggest otherwise.

    Performance will be determined by testing the system,

    looks to be a bit lightweight.

    If anything, the graphics processor may be a limiting factor.

     

    If you have a WATCHOUT 5 License, you should not install 5.1,

    you should install the current version 5.5.

    Any computer that can support 5.1 will support 5.5 as well.

    If you encounter any issues with 5.1, you will simply be instructed 

    to update to the current version, as various issues have been identified 

    and corrected since 5.1. 

     

    Whether it should be higher than Production and Display?

     

    Ultimately the watchpoint computer should be the most powerful,

    as it is the limiting factor for the end result.

    The end result show can playback without a watchmaker computer,

    it can not playback without the watchpoint computer.

     

    The watchmaker computer is more about what the producer

    will accept in preview during the show assembly process.

     

    You accommodate meek watchmaker computers by detuning preview.

    i.e. movies represented by static thumbnails vs movies that play in preview,

    reduced vs full resolution of preview still images, etc.

    These setting can be manipulated by the user

    to match preview performance to watchmaker hardware thresholds.

     

    If you want snappy full rendered preview,

    then that would need to equal or even more

    performance than the watchpoint computer,

    depending on how many watchpoint computers there are.

  6. I see in the v5.5 release notes the setIP command to set the Watchpax IP address, but how do I set the subnet mask and gateway?

    Thanks,

    --D

     

    If you wish to control those parameters, provide a DHCP server to do it.

    I run my test rig that way.

    The ONLY reason to use setIP is to add an EXTRA IP specifically for external control

    when a self assigned IP is used by WATCHPAX, WATCHOUT will not use the IP address from setIP.

     

     

    In some cases, you may still need to use a fixed IP number. For instance when using another system to control WATCHOUT as part of an installation, that control system requires a known and fixed IP number in order to talk to WATCHOUT. If you're using regular computers, you can set the IP number through Windows. However, WATCHPAX doesn't have this option due to its locked down operating system. Here, you use a new control protocol command to assign a fixed IP number:

  7. Cool Illusions, on 17 Jul 2013 - 04:39, said:

    ...

    Isnt the Image Server running on netwrok, why do i need to use the capture card?

    The image server provides still images that change and are rendered while the show is running.

    The capture cards are for the live moving content - live sources. i.e.

    Computer (PowerPoint, game from laptop) and video (camera, live TV).

     

    BTW The live TV would need to be converted to SDI for the setup listed above.

    For example, to convert SD/HD analog component to SD/HD SDI,

    the AJA HD10AVA provides the conversion and eliminates the need for an SDI distribution amp

    as it has three SDI outputs.

  8. AGR, on 14 Jul 2013 - 12:16, said:

    This is the first time I have bought and used a display with 6 display outputs (Win7). It is so fast that it boots and loads Watchpoint in a few seconds. Which is great!

     

    However I too get an incorrect IP address of 169.254.231.114 displaying in Watchpoint. Which can mean that there are other adapters connected/configured as Jim states, but this is not the case here.

     

    My production laptop (Win8) is connected directly with ethernet cable. I can ping to the correct IP of 192.168.0.102 successfully. Therefore I came to same conclusion as noted by Jonas that it is starting before Windows has completed. Also because once the display software is up and running showing the wrong IP, I then relaunch it and it finds the correct IP address of 192.168.0.102

     

    If I use a switch between the two computers it finds the correct IP address. However I would prefer not to use a switch for this stand-alone installation if possible.

    Well that is the issue, when the computers boot up they do not yet see the connection to the other computer.

    when the switch is present, the connection is ready.

    When direct connected, it is not ready yet.

    Put a USD$20 100base-T switch in if you must, but your direct connection is the root of that issue.

     

    AGR, on 14 Jul 2013 - 12:16, said:

     

    I therefore tried Jonas' suggestion

     

     

    , but appending -Delay 3 (or any number) to the shortcut Target makes no difference to the startup time.

    "D:/WATCHOUT/WATCHPOINT.EXE" "-delay 10"

    NB: without the " " , Windows gives an error indicating that the entry is incorrect, so perhaps the Users Guide screenshot could be updated?

    May just be a copy and paste issue, but, as written above the behaviour you describe is expected.

    the target string is missing the space delimiter required before the command line switch

    and there should be no quotes around the command line switch.

    Should be

    "D:/WATCHOUT/WATCHPOINT.EXE" -delay 10

     

    AGR, on 14 Jul 2013 - 12:16, said:

    I have added it to the shortcut in the main Start menu as well as the one found in ProgramData/Microsoft/Windows/Start Menu/Programs/Watchout5

     

    This is possibly also related to the issue I have in adding commands to the autostart.txt file (either direct or using the Edit Startup Script from the display file menu.

    ??? what kind of problems, can you not edit the text file directly?

     

    AGR, on 14 Jul 2013 - 12:16, said:

    I want to run this display as a cluster (which I have done many times with previous versions of Watchout and XP) so that it starts the show automatically after booting up and executing the display software. The show is in a folder called Shows inside the folder that contains the Watchpoint.exe

    Yes it is and the show's location is handled by watchpoint directly.

    When calling a show from a script, the location of the show is not an option,

    it is already predetermined by watchpoint.

    So enter only the show name, exact case and spacing.

     

    AGR, on 14 Jul 2013 - 12:16, said:

    The script I use is below but when I boot the pc the only change is that the display has the line "The show will begin shortly" but it doesn't.

     

    authenticate 1

    setLogoString "The show will begin shortly"

    delay 8000

    load "Shows/Performance Today"

    wait

    run

     

    Perhaps I am missing something, I also tried ommitting the "Shows/" from the load command.

    And you should omit any path name from the load command.

  9. Cool Illusions, on 15 Jul 2013 - 02:33, said:

    Dear all,

     

    Would like to find out the following:

    1) Can i use 2 or more image servers on one setup?

    Yes

     

    Cool Illusions, on 15 Jul 2013 - 02:33, said:

    if yes, how do i do it

    Take the signal from your source to a distribution amplifier and send the signal to a capture card on each Display computer.

    On each display computer, set the input settings the same for each signal - all the same input # for the same signal.

     

    Cool Illusions, on 15 Jul 2013 - 02:33, said:

    2) do I use the URL base images to capture twitter?

    No, I do not believe you will find a still image file of individual tweets to point at in twitter web offerings.

     

    Cool Illusions, on 15 Jul 2013 - 02:33, said:

    or is there any other way beside using capture card (as I have only 2 capture card in the system)

    A capture card is not the best way to bring in twitter info.

    Adding a WATCHOUT Dynamic Image Server to the system would be better.

    The Dynamic Image Server, via a Flash script, will go to the web, gather the twitter data,

    parse it, and then turn the data into a still image of the text, which you then display like any other image object.

    This is explained in the User Guide, Chapter - 13 Dynamic Images - page 275.

    There is also a specific example of how to display a twitter feed in the

    WATCHOUT Academy Cookbook - Twitter Feed

     

    Cool Illusions, on 15 Jul 2013 - 02:33, said:

    Can all of the above run together in one show.

    Yes

     

    Cool Illusions, on 15 Jul 2013 - 02:33, said:

    My Watchout set up is running 3 projectors on 3 Display CPUs that has 2 capture card each CPU. I need to show 5 different sources on the screen.

    1) Live TV full screen

    one YUV digital video feed

     

    Cool Illusions, on 15 Jul 2013 - 02:33, said:

    2) left hand side of the same screen, top side Live Promo playing from laptop (Power point)

    one digital or analog RGB feed at any computer resolution up to 1920 x 1200 @ 60p.

     

    Cool Illusions, on 15 Jul 2013 - 02:33, said:

    and bottom side showing update of game from laptop (software )

    second digital or analog RGB feed at any computer resolution up to 1920 x 1200 @ 60p.

     

    Cool Illusions, on 15 Jul 2013 - 02:33, said:

    3) Right hand side of the same screen, top side Live feed from camera,

    second YUV digital video feed

     

    Cool Illusions, on 15 Jul 2013 - 02:33, said:

    bottom side twitter

    Dynamic Image Server.

     

     

    All possible with the correct setup.

    I would suggest one DataPath Vision RGB E2 and one DataPath Vision SDI2

    in each Display Server, along with a WATCHOUT Dynamic Image Server for the system.

  10. Hi Jim

     

    Could you expand on what those changes are please?

     

    Watchout 5.5

    Windows 7 display computer (only one).

    This is an installation that needs to run from startup without a production computer.

     

    At present I cannot even add the name of my Cmd.txt file to to Target box of the Watchpoint shortcut properties. Windows error "The name specified in the Target box is not valid. Please make sure that the path and file name are correct". I'm following page 258 of the latest Watchout_5_Users_Guide.

     

    In the Watchpoint shortcut properties, could there be a space in your path name?

    If so, you will need enclosing straight quotes

    around the original string if they are not already there,

    followed by a space as a separator and then the cmd.txt  entry.

    i.e. Target:

    "C:\Program Files\Dataton\watchpoint.exe" cmd.txt

  11. Hi, can u please describe how the lenguage setting is assigned?

     

    Im Italian but using win7 english OS, keyboard is in italian.

    Im now downloading again the installer having changed my nationality (sadly only virtually lol) >>>is each installer linked depending on nationality choosen?

     

    There is only one installer, it installs all language support.

     

    :::

    EDIT

    forgot to specify that i do not want italian to be default lenguage but english.

    same for display.

    :::

     

    Because i didnt see any option in the preferences dialog. I see the new "nationality" folders in the installation root...but cant see the english file.

    thanks

     

    SOLVED:

    changedREGIONAL FORMAT in windows preference. BUT this will not be good for my local format (date-time-currency etc etc), wich is , damn it, italian. 

     

    Will it be possible in the future to choose our preferred lenguage in the watchout preferences?

    thanks

     

    English is the default language if the Windows OS language selected is not one of the ones supported.

    You can operate WATCHOUT in English even when a supported language is set in the OS

    by disabling the supported language in WATCHOUT.

    Do this by renaming the language support folder in the in the installation root.

    For example, to disable Italian,

    rename the folder named it to something else, it-disabled for example.

    That would result in WATCHOUT sill running in English on a system with Win 7 running in Italian.

  12. I am seeing a lot of issues with 5.5 customers

    using fixed IP addresses in the display definition dialog.

     

    I have no experience with that

    my personal experience has been otherwise,

    but I suspect that has to do with assigning fixed IP addresses in the Display dialog

    vs assigning computer name and (optional cluster name in Preferences).

     

    watchcube_using_display_name.png

     

    As the naming feature is new to 5.5,

    I focused my attention on this from the get go

    and have always used computer name in the display dialog,

    never a fixed IP in the display dialog.

     

    First, you must define names in the new Network dialog.

    You should enter a cluster name if you plan to use watchnet

    or if you plan to run multiple shows

    on different computers sharing a common network.

    Double click on a Network window entry and
    the Display Computer dialog will appear for you to change the name.

     

    5_5b28_network_win-cmptr_clustr_name.png

     

     

    If you do not leave cluster name blank,

    be sure to enter the same cluster name in
    File - Preferences - General - Display Cluster Name:,
      or the show will not find the computer.

    Both display dialog computer name and preferences cluster name

    must match those assigned to the target computer.

    wo55-preferences_cluster_name.png

     

    After doing this, WATCHOUT Display opening logo screen

    will show the name (and optional cluster name if used)

    along with current IP address .

     

    wo55-autostart-name-cluster.png

     

    When using names, the actual IP address may be a variable,

    provided they are all within the same subnet.

     

    The new Network Window in Production will

    auto discover all active display computers on the same subnet.

    (active = watchout display is running)

     

    The task of swapping out display computers can now be managed

    from WO Production via the new network window, by simply re-assinging the name.

     

    So, for 5.5 onward, instead of setting the computer NIC properties to a fixed IP address,
    you may set them to DHCP. The same goes for production or display computer.

    If you choose to continue to set your displays to fixed IP, ok fine,

    but still, use the new WO name to reference them.

     

    No DHCP server - No problem.
    When DHCP is set and no DHCP server is available,
    the OS will auto-assign an address.
    I am told auto-assigned IP addresses will always fall within the same subnet.
    Good enough when using WO computer name instead of entering a fixed IP address.

     

    ----

    For testing, I chose not to change all my existing computer addressing.

    I have been testing with computer names referencing a mixture of 

    DHCP and fixed IP addressed WO computers.

    In this instance, I provide a DHCP server

    that assigns IP address in the same subnet as the fixed IP stations. 

    All are using WO names. 

    Has been bulletproof for the couple of weeks I have tested.

  13. Mike: So the Wibu installation is still supposed to be automatic? I had a similar experience to the other posters - I uninstalled Watchout and Wibu using the windows 'uninstall programs' tool and restarted, to be on the safe side, then ran the Watchout 5.5 installer but got the error about the dll file. When I looked in the Wibu folder, I saw installers for both 32 and 64 bit (I'm running Win 7 64bit on my test machine) and so I wondered if the Wibu install was manual, seeing as the user has to choose which version to install.

     

    The standard WATCHOUT installer can determine if a system is 32 bit or 64 bit on its own and automatically makes that choice.

  14. .... Have you connected to the WATCHPAX with Production and loaded a show with any other resolution set for the Display?

     

    /jonas

     

    x2

    watchmker will change the watachpax resolution when you go online the first time.

    I have been testing with an active  MDP->VGA adaptor feeding an ancient CRT ( NEC MultiSync XE21)

    at 1280x720@60p with no problems.

    There is enough of a handshake in the VGA connection (pin 12) that watchpax knows 

    that resolutions beyond 1280x720@60 are too high for this old relic,

    and reports that back to watchmaker when a higher resolution is requested. 

    :D

  15.  

    Hello everyone!
     
    I have a customer request and I need your advice to answer.
    The customer wants a presence detector, installed at the entrance of a room, and when it detects someone, a message is displayed on a screen.
     
    What material is most suitable for this use, in terms of detection?
     
    How to communicate between the sensor and Watchout in this case?
     
     
    thank you in advance!

     

    the lowest cost method ...

     

    First find a presence detector that provides a switch closure when activated.

    Then obtain a MIDI device that sends a MIDI note command when you receive the switch closure.

    Setup an input in watchmaker to receive the MIDI note.

    Setup an aux timeline to display the message.

    In the task window, type the input name in the trigger field fo the message timeline.

  16. It does not appear that you have received direct answers to your straightforward questions.

     

    Hi People,

    New to this forum, i've lotsa useful info so far but i can' seem to find much on the firepro and sync card.

    I'm looking at building 2 systems with 4 output to achieve 8 output for driving an led wall setup.
    It'll be pretty much a 15360 x 860 image size.

    I'm looking at fitting the system with a ATI AMD Firepro W7000 with S400 sync card.

    My question is:

    1) Does the sync card work at the hardware level to sync up the 2 display machines

     

    Yes.

     

    or do i need some extra bit of software or driver to activate the sync?

     

    There is software you must set up.

    It is in the Catalyst Control Center under AMD FirePro - Synchronization.

     

    ccc_synch.png

     

     

    2) Is the physical setup as simple as connecting a network cable between the 2 sync cards in both the machines?

     

    Yes, providing they are connected to the correct ports on each s400 card AND the software setup above is correct.

     

    Is Genlock required for the framelock to take place?

     

    No, it is an available option, but the s400 can just as easily use one of its outputs as the synch master.

    Either of these two example setups are valid.

     

    s400-setups.png

     

    3) Is a pre-spilt MPEG 2 still my best bet as far as video format is concern?

     

    Yes, that has not changed yet.

  17. hi,

    i am trying to control watchout production with an extron touch device, 

    i can only able to control "play" and "stop"(pause) commands and that too in the main timeline only.

     

    I assume you are talking to WATCHOUT Display (no production computer connected).

     

    Ultimately you should always start with the "  load " command,

    as it establishes the cluster and confirms the correct show is loaded.

     

    so need some help on following.

     

    1. can i control the auxiliary timeline as well??

     

    Yes, as shown in Appendix E, you add the name of the auxiliary timeline in staright quotes in the run command,

     i.e. run "Timeline 1"

     

    2. can i perform some options other then "play" and "pause"?

     

    Yes, goto time, goto named control cue, standby, etc.

     

    3. also i want to understand the command function (what a perticular command do) while programming extron touch panel TV1000 by GUI configurator to control watchout.

     

    ??? Those are also defined in Appendix E.

  18. Thanks for your thoughts guys.  In response to upgrading to 5.5, that is kind of the root of the issue.  I upgraded from 5.3 (which was working fine) to 5.5.  Upon starting Watchout in 5.5.......after 3 or 4 minutes, the stage computers would randomly disconnect from the network.  No rhyme or reason.  I then tried going back to 5.3.....which is where I got the error message.  The only way I could make the system run again, was to go back to 5.0.  If I tried upgrading any higher than 5.0, i get the license driver error.  This is still a work in progress.....any ideas would help.

     

    You have somehow lost control of your configuration.

    With that kind of behavior, restore your "known good state" archive

    and work from there.

  19. ...

    And yeah, to downgrade you need Win8 Pro, which you either have to buy installed, or purchase stand-alone. So $150 just to be able to downgrade, with a windows 7 licence on top of that. Ridiculous. ...

     

    rotfl.gif

     

    You don't consider the circumstances that end up with that time vs money tradeoff the ridiculous part?

  20. ... Now I now I am free to get a win 8 machine if I have to....

     

    'Have to'? If I had to choose a machine with Win 8 installed, I would buy a copy of Win 7 too.

    To properly prepare it for WO, you should reformat and re-install Windows anyway (then tune).

    Might as well install a tried and true variant while you are at it.

    I personally would pay the Windows retail copy price NOT to be a pioneer.  :D ymmv

    You can always pick out the pioneers, their the ones with the arrows in their back.

  21. ... Is that the only weigh-in on windows 8? I am so tentative because they say "Compatible with Windows 8. Windows 7 required for full functionality". How about a little more clarity on that one, Dataton? What functionality will I be missing out on? How is it compatible if it's not fully functional?

     

    That is a legacy message aimed at Windows XP, not Windows 8.

    Windows 8 provides all functions available in Windows 7.

    Message should probably be updated to ...  "Windows 7 or higher required for full functionality;)

    That said, Windows 8 provides no additional benefit over Windows 7.

    More likely the opposite, Windows 8 contains more potential new things that 

    are not needed but will still muck up reliability.

    So you will pioneer a bit as the experience pool on Windows 8 is small.

     

    Windows 7 on the other hand is mature and limits WATCHOUT in no way.

    Dataton publishes tuning guidelines for Windows 7, Win 7 is still a current product,

    and it is a tried and trued platform.

  22. I have tested an Nvidia Geforce GTX 680 driving four Watchout displays.

    It works perfectly.

    It has 2x DVI, 1x HDMI, 1x DP (NOT mini-DP); so no need of active adapters.

     

    http://www.palit.biz/palit/vgapro.php?id=1872

     

     

    Uhh, MiniDisplayPort and DisplayPort are both the same as it relates to active adaptor / passive adaptor use.

    Very possibly the nVidia card has the needed extra support for the MDP/DP to work without an active adaptor

    and three or more ports lit up, but that is not related to the DP connection type.

    I know that ATi cards with DisplayPort still need the active adaptor when more that two ports are used.

    It stops working when two DVI outputs are used by the non-MDP/DP outputs.

    On ATi, the same MDP/DP port will work with a passive adaptor when two or less ports are used,

    so testing with pasive adaptors needs at least three ports lit up to be a valid test on ATi.  ;)

     

    Did you test the passive DP->DVI-D adaptor on nVidia with all ports lit up?

    nVidia's info on this, How To Setup NVIDIA Surround on GeForce 600 Series GPUs

    makes no mention of active/passive adaptors.

  23. Is there anything else which could cause this unpredictable behaviour?

    Bearing in mind that the same thing is happening on two separate show systems.

     

    Yes, search Echo's support, they indicate the Echo driver is sensitive to the Firewire interface type. (item 6 at that link)

    We have encountered issues with Asus motherboard Firewire interface and have used PCIe Firewire cards to overcome it.

    May not be your issue, but worth looking into.

  24. hi mr jfk. thank you for your reply.

     

    i am running 2 servers and a production machine for the video playback played from separate auxiliary timelines. ( the 11 pcs are simply there for touch screen overlay triggering, they are networked to the watchout system so it talks to watchout ). its an unusual setup, we have a touchscreen overlay in front of a transparent lcd screen.probably not been done before..

     

    there was no touchscreen software curiously. watchout version. 5.3.1

    cheers steve

     

    I am still having difficulty following what is happening, but no matter,

    it sounds like your WATCHOUT PCs are seeing EDID interruptions on their outputs.

    Any change in EDID during operation will force a graphics card reset.

    Anytime a graphics card reset occurs, the outputs can and will be reassigned to new output numbers.

    The only way to avoid this is to provide stable / constant EDID.

    An EDID manager on each output can isolate any bad behaviour in the display chain

    and prevent random output resets. Have seen this occur

    when the transceiver of a display extender was crashing and restarting.

    Have seen this occur if a display is powered down while watchpoint is running, etc.

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