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In an earlier thread, Jonas sez:

 

But if you have a new Mac with an Intel processor it runs very well with the

latest version of emulation software, such as VMWare Fusion and Parallels.

It works well for light production work.

For more heavy production, it could work as well, if the Preview is turned off.

 

This applies to the WATCHOUT production computer, do NOT attempt to

run WATCHOUT Display computers under emulation software.

 

Another option on a Mac is of course installing Windows under BootCamp.

 

My question is . .If running Bootcamp will both Production AND Display work as expected or

do Display machines need to be Windows machines?

 

Thanks . . .Jeff

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Re: My question is . .If running Bootcamp will both Production AND Display work as expected

or do Display machines need to be Windows machines?

 

BootCamp means running a Mac as a WIndows machine only, at the mercy of Apple, though.

They supply the drivers for their hardware and thats it.

 

This has been made to work for some, although we do not endorse/recommend it,

there is nothing stopping you from trying. As usual, your mileage may vary...

 

I would recommend to always test with the intended content before deploying.

 

/jonas

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Hello,

I want to ask about Watchout on MacOSX.

 

I use Apple Macbook Pro 15"inch i7 MD104.

 

 

2.6GHz quad-core Intel Core i7

Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz

8GB 1600MHz memory

750GB 5400-rpm hard drive1

Intel HD Graphics 4000

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory

 

Do i have to install a dual boot? with bootcamp?

Whether all functions of Watchout is going well?

 

 

Thanks

 

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I just recently used my Macbook as the production machine for running a small show. I have Windows 7 installed through Bootcamp.

I did no programming with it, and used the MBP only to run a few tasks. It preformed well with no hicupps. I'm not saying I would recommend it for a big show, just saying that Watchout will perform as a production machine on a MBP with bootcamp.

I would never use it as a display computer.

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Hello,

I want to ask about Watchout on MacOSX.

 

I use Apple Macbook Pro 15"inch i7 MD104.

 

 

2.6GHz quad-core Intel Core i7

Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz

8GB 1600MHz memory

750GB 5400-rpm hard drive1

Intel HD Graphics 4000

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory

 

Do i have to install a dual boot?

 

Yes.

 

 

with bootcamp?

 

Yes.

Which version of MacOSX are we talking about?

 

 

Whether all functions of Watchout is going well?

 

If installed properly, with all Apples drivers for the system under Windows 7, 64-bit preferably,

and tweaked as any other Windows 7 PC for WATCHOUT use, it should be as OK as any PC laptop with similar specs.

 

 

/jonas

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Hi gents, just to add my two cents regarding Watchout 5 and Mac. 

 

We have successfully run many shows using our MacBook Pro Retinas's as display machines, with absolutely no problems, in fact, watchout runs so well on our macs, that we are about to purchase the new Mac Pro's as our primary display computers. 

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Hi gents, just to add my two cents regarding Watchout 5 and Mac. 

 

We have successfully run many shows using our MacBook Pro Retinas's as display machines, with absolutely no problems, in fact, watchout runs so well on our macs, that we are about to purchase the new Mac Pro's as our primary display computers. 

 

That has a considerable amount to do with the content.

I suspect you primarliy perform video rolls and

do not overly stress with tweens, masking, keying, etc.

i.e. the GPU in the laptop has much lower limits than a dedicated GPU graphics card.

As long as you stay within those limits, you will be fine.

But it is naive to think an onboard low power mobile GPU can perform equally to a full blown graphics card

in all content situations.

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That has a considerable amount to do with the content.

I suspect you primarliy perform video rolls and

do not overly stress with tweens, masking, keying, etc.

i.e. the GPU in the laptop has much lower limits than a dedicated GPU graphics card.

As long as you stay within those limits, you will be fine.

But it is naive to think an onboard low power mobile GPU can perform equally to a full blown graphics card

in all content situations.

 

True, those gigs were predominantly video content. But with the new mac pro's now having two dedicated 3GB AMD Firepro GFX cards, do you not think that they will have enough power to handle the keying and masking involved in a more complex show. We have 9 racks with ATI Radeon 6 output cards installed, but I seem to battle a lot more with them than I do with the Mac's. Occasional blue screens, crashes during programming, delayed or slow updates, yet the machines are packed full with the latest and greatest hardware available at the time. (one year ago). 

 

I have an upcoming show where we are blending 14 20K HD Projectors over 170m x 8m circular screen around the audience. I need to output a resolution 22946px x 1080px. I am proposing we use 3x Mac Pro's as displays each outputting 5 1080 sources and using the 6th thunder bolt port as a capture. Yes, certainly all through bootcamp. The 15th output is a bowl shaped screen above the central stage. Then I'll use 3 of my PC based racks as backups. We will be using the Barco FSN switcher to switch between main and backup using up all 32 inputs (Roland V800HD [2x PPT, 2x Keynote] and 8x Cameras via two mixed feeds) on the switcher and all 16 outputs (prompt screens). Will start testing the system next week. It will certainly involve a lot of keying, some masking and a lot of tween's, mainly using the positions, scale and opacity, with a number of compositions.

 

I'd gladly eat my words if you'd suggest going the PC route as it is tried and tested, more robust and a steady platform. Any advice would be hugely appreciated as the investment will become rather costly, and I'd hate to have to buy twice.

 

Thanks.

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I agree with klikwawan, on Parallel Desktop it works pretty well.

I have not tried it for a gig, but it helps out well to create a show.

In my opinion P.Desktop is more stable than bootcamp.

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I tested Watchout 5 as Display with Apple Macbook Pro 15"inch i7 MD104 on Bootcamp machine, Windows 7 SP1 64bit with tweak windows from dataton and the result is worked good.

 

 

2.6GHz quad-core Intel Core i7

Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz

8GB 1600MHz memory

SSD Sandisk Extreme II 240GB

Intel HD Graphics 4000

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory

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