klikwawan Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Hi... Can my PC use Watchout 5.1? Whether it should be higher than Production and Display? PC Spesifications: (DISPLAY) PROCESSOR = Intel QuardCore MOBO = Gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L VGA = NVIDIA Geforce GT 210 1GB DDR3 RAM = 4 GB HDD = 500GB (PRODUCTION) PROCESSOR = Intel Core i7 MOBO = Gigabyte Gigabyte GA Z77M-D3H VGA = NVIDIA Geforce GT 220 512MB RAM = 16 GB HDD = 2TB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator jfk Posted July 25, 2013 Moderator Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Hi... Can my PC use Watchout 5.1? PC Spesifications:(DISPLAY) aka watchpointPROCESSOR = Intel QuardCore MOBO = Gigabyte GA-EP43-UD3L VGA = NVIDIA Geforce GT 210 1GB DDR3 RAM = 4 GB HDD = 500GB (PRODUCTION) aka watchmaker PROCESSOR = Intel Core i7 MOBO = Gigabyte Gigabyte GA Z77M-D3H VGA = NVIDIA Geforce GT 220 512MB RAM = 16 GB HDD = 2TB There is nothing in the information provided that would suggest otherwise. Performance will be determined by testing the system, looks to be a bit lightweight. If anything, the graphics processor may be a limiting factor. If you have a WATCHOUT 5 License, you should not install 5.1, you should install the current version 5.5. Any computer that can support 5.1 will support 5.5 as well. If you encounter any issues with 5.1, you will simply be instructed to update to the current version, as various issues have been identified and corrected since 5.1. Whether it should be higher than Production and Display? Ultimately the watchpoint computer should be the most powerful, as it is the limiting factor for the end result. The end result show can playback without a watchmaker computer, it can not playback without the watchpoint computer. The watchmaker computer is more about what the producer will accept in preview during the show assembly process. You accommodate meek watchmaker computers by detuning preview. i.e. movies represented by static thumbnails vs movies that play in preview, reduced vs full resolution of preview still images, etc. These setting can be manipulated by the user to match preview performance to watchmaker hardware thresholds. If you want snappy full rendered preview, then that would need to equal or even more performance than the watchpoint computer, depending on how many watchpoint computers there are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klikwawan Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hello, I want to ask, Is this enough spec for watchpoint for FULL HD system 1920x1080 50i? Chassis : Image Shapetek EYE-4806BK, 19 inch 4U rack-chassie, black Power Supply : Corsair AX850W Motherboard : ASUS P8Z77-V PRO (LGA 1155, Intel Z77, DDR3, SATA3, USB3) CPU : Intel Core i5 3570k 3.4Ghz Cache 6MB [bOX] Socket LGA 1155 Unlocked Cooler : Intel CPU Cooler Liquid RTS2011LC RAM : Corsair 8 GB, DDR3-1066, 4 GB x 2, dual-channel HD : SSD OCZ Vector 128GB SATA III (6GBps) DVD-R/RW DL : NEC DVD-R/RW DL Graphics Card : Asus GeForge NVIDIA GTX 760 2GB DDR5 DirectCU II OC Capture HD-SDI : Blackmagic Decklink Duo Capture HDMI : Blackmagic Intensity Pro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator jfk Posted August 13, 2013 Moderator Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Hello, I want to ask, Is this enough spec for watchpoint for FULL HD system 1920x1080 50i? Chassis : Image Shapetek EYE-4806BK, 19 inch 4U rack-chassie, black Power Supply : Corsair AX850W Motherboard : ASUS P8Z77-V PRO (LGA 1155, Intel Z77, DDR3, SATA3, USB3) CPU : Intel Core i5 3570k 3.4Ghz Cache 6MB [bOX] Socket LGA 1155 Unlocked Cooler : Intel CPU Cooler Liquid RTS2011LC RAM : Corsair 8 GB, DDR3-1066, 4 GB x 2, dual-channel HD : SSD OCZ Vector 128GB SATA III (6GBps) DVD-R/RW DL : NEC DVD-R/RW DL Graphics Card : Asus GeForge NVIDIA GTX 760 2GB DDR5 DirectCU II OC Capture HD-SDI : Blackmagic Decklink Duo Capture HDMI : Blackmagic Intensity Pro I would not choose the above motherboard, cpu and GPU that are optimized for over-clocking. Waste of money, over-clocking is a bit too risky for stable performance. Choose components with locked clocks and run at the rated levels. That said, the stuff above will run the software. Proper tuning of all the software components is just as important as the hardware. Combination of BMD capture cards and motherboards can be finicky. Check with BMD for recommended motherboards for their hardware. Testing and tuning the BMD bits can be quite a chore. Performance is anybody's guess, the only way to tell is to build it and test it. If testing is a burden you choose to avoid, ideally you should find a trustworthy computer builder and require them to perform the testing and certify the results to you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klikwawan Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 So, what a recommend specs for FULL HD 1920x1080 with Capturecard HD SDI with 2 watchpoint? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Dannert Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Please look here for ideas: http://forum.dataton.com/topic/734-watchout-5-technical-notes/ /jonas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klikwawan Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 How about this specs? Chassis : Image Shapetek EYE-4806BK, 19 inch 4U rack-chassie, black Power Supply : Corsair AX850W Motherboard : ASUS P9X79 Deluxe (LGA2011, Intel X79, Quad Channel DDR3) CPU : Intel Core i7 3970X 6-core SandyBridge-E Cooler : Intel CPU Cooler Liquid RTS2011LC RAM : Corsair 8 GB, DDR3-1066, 4 GB x 2, dual-channel HD : SSD OCZ Vector 128GB SATA III (6GBps) DVD-R/RW DL : NEC DVD-R/RW DL Graphics Card : Asus GeForge NVIDIA GTX 760 2GB DDR5 DirectCU II OC OR Asus Radeon HD 7870 2GB DDR5 DirectCU II TOP ? Capture HD-SDI : Blackmagic Decklink Duo Capture HDMI : Blackmagic Intensity Pro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Dannert Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 How about this specs? Chassis : Image Shapetek EYE-4806BK, 19 inch 4U rack-chassie, black Power Supply : Corsair AX850W Motherboard : ASUS P9X79 Deluxe (LGA2011, Intel X79, Quad Channel DDR3) CPU : Intel Core i7 3970X 6-core SandyBridge-E Cooler : Intel CPU Cooler Liquid RTS2011LC RAM : Corsair 8 GB, DDR3-1066, 4 GB x 2, dual-channel Use quad-channel memory. HD : SSD OCZ Vector 128GB SATA III (6GBps) I would recommend using one SSD for OS, and one for WATCHOUT/Media. Like a 128GB for OS and a 256GB for WATCHOUT/Media DVD-R/RW DL : NEC DVD-R/RW DL Graphics Card : Asus GeForge NVIDIA GTX 760 2GB DDR5 DirectCU II OC OR Asus Radeon HD 7870 2GB DDR5 DirectCU II TOP ? Both should work for 4 outputs. Capture HD-SDI : Blackmagic Decklink Duo Capture HDMI : Blackmagic Intensity Pro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klikwawan Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 - RAM : Corsair 8GB, 4x2GB DDR3-1066 quad-channel memory? - Graphics Card : I only need 2 Output, i think Asus GeForge NVIDIA GTX 760 2GB DDR5 DirectCU II is too waste of money. Any suggest the other tipe? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Dannert Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 - RAM : Corsair 8GB, 4x2GB DDR3-1066 quad-channel memory? Your motherboard choice requires quad-channel memory for optimal performance, not dual-channel memory. From ASUS website: 8 x DIMM, Max. 64GB, DDR3 2400(O.C.)/2133(O.C.)/1866/1600/1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory Quad Channel Memory Architecture 16 GB is recommended ie a kit of 4 x 4 GB DDR3 1866 MHz Please consult your computer supplier for choice. - Graphics Card : I only need 2 Output, i think Asus GeForge NVIDIA GTX 760 2GB DDR5 DirectCU II is too waste of money. Any suggest the other tipe? I don't agree about the waste of money, and I repeat my earlier answer: both your suggestions should work for 4 outputs. Recommended cards is AMD Radeon HD7970 series, though, as you can see in the earlier linked examples. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klikwawan Posted August 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Thanks for suggest. But, why specs for watchout is too high? Can I change CPU : Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz Cache 12MB OR Intel Core i7 3820 3.6GHx Cache 10MB ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Dannert Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Thanks for suggest. But, why specs for watchout is too high? Because we are now talking about multi-output capable Display machines, not single-output as in WATCHOUT v4 or earlier. From jfk:s answer in this thread: AMD Firepro W600 vs ASUS hd 7970 http://forum.dataton.com/topic/1029-amd-firepro-w600-vs-asus-hd-7970/?do=findComment&comment=4026 The high end hardware CPU / GPU recommendations are aimed at providing the minimum content restrictions in all aspects. Accept content restrictions and you can tune down sub-systems to most economically service the task. In all cases, disc storage throughput is a benefit, so it is never wise to economize in that area when driving six outputs. An i5 cpu is not going to adequately service six concurrent, quality, HD movie decodes. Can I change CPU : Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz Cache 12MB Yes, this is is a 6-core processor, at roughly half the price of a 3970K. Cheapest 6-core available. OR Intel Core i7 3820 3.6GHx Cache 10MB ? Yes, but this is is a 4-core processor, makes sense if only running 2-4 outputs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klikwawan Posted August 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Yes, I need run only 2 outputs. So, can I downgrade the specs for save the money? Chassis : Image Shapetek EYE-4806BK, 19 inch 4U rack-chassie, black Power Supply : Corsair AX850W OR AX1200W Motherboard : ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE (LGA 1155, Intel Z77, DDR3, SATA3, USB3) CPU : Intel Core i5 3570k 3.4Ghz Cache 6MB Socket LGA 1155 Unlocked Cooler : Intel CPU Cooler Liquid RTS2011LC RAM : Corsair 8 GB, 2x4GB DDR3 quad-channel HDD OS : SSD OCZ Vector 128GB SATA III (6GBps) HDD MEDIA : SSD OCZ Vector 256GB SATA III (6GBps) DVD-R/RW DL : NEC DVD-R/RW DL Graphics Card :Asus Radeon HD 7970 3GB GDDR5 Capture HD-SDI : Blackmagic Decklink Duo Capture HDMI : Blackmagic Intensity Pro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Dannert Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Please use a Core i7 like 3770K instead of Core i5. This is the wrong place to save money on, I think. /jonas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klikwawan Posted August 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Okey.. Thanks Jonas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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