Member matkeane Posted December 27, 2018 Member Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 In Watchmaker version 6.3.1, I'm no longer able to copy/paste certain Tween FX between cues. After applying Hue & Saturation to one cue, and selecting the Tween track in the timeline sidebar, the 'copy' option is greyed out in the menu and the keyboard shortcut no longer works. I just opened the same project in 6.2.2 and 6.3.1 and I can copy/paste tween tracks as expected in 6.2.2. I haven't tried all the available tween effects, but Contrast & Brightness suffers from the same bug, while Opacity tweens copy OK. I didn't notice anything in the release notes about changes and, suffice to say that, on a project where the client wants colour correction applied to multiple cues, this regression is a real pain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 I just tried it out and had no problems with copy/paste. Did not try all of the tweens but Hue & Saturation and Contrast & Brightness worked fine for me. Are you still experiencing this issue? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiesemann Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Could it be that this is actually on of those Windows 10 bugs? Had copy/paste/move issues -it suddenly stopped working) for some months in Exlorer, only restarting the Explorer process(es) would help. I even made a shortcut (.bat) for it on the desktop. Since about two weeks or so this seems to be gone. After some win-updates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member matkeane Posted January 3, 2019 Author Member Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 I think I have narrowed this down... I first encountered it during a show just before Christmas, using Win7 Pro producer machines, and was able to reproduce it at home (also on Win7 Pro production) in both the show file and a new test file. I've just started a new test project and I can happily copy-paste opacity and scale tweens but not hue-and-saturation (copy option is greyed out in the menu)... that is, until I add a keyframe. Once there is a keyframe (for any of the hue/saturation/gain values), the 'copy' option is available in the menu. Same applies for other tweens. Why do I want to copy a tween with no values set? Because I'm using it with a formula linked to a generic input, so that I can control the hue/saturation of several clips at the same time. It looks like adding an initial keyframe with a default value allows me to set up a formula and then paste it to another clip, but it seems like copy-pasting of tweens is not always consistent though - opacity, scale and z-rotation tweens can be copied without keyframes, but not other tween effects. Scale and z-rotation I can almost understand, as they can be set in the UI without actually adding a keyframe, but I can copy an empty (no keyframes or formula) opacity tween track... Perhaps only tween tracks with a single property value can be copied without keyframes? So I guess it's not a bug, just user error (would be nice if copy-paste behaviour were consistent though). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator jfk Posted January 21, 2019 Moderator Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/3/2019 at 7:24 AM, matkeane said: ... It looks like adding an initial keyframe with a default value allows me to set up a formula and then paste it to another clip, but it seems like copy-pasting of tweens is not always consistent though - opacity, scale and z-rotation tweens can be copied without keyframes, but not other tween effects ... Some tweens are always available with a formula, some tweens are only available with a formula if the media item is set to "More Effects and Capabilities" Could this be a situation where the source media object is set to "More Effects and Capabilities" and the target media object is set to "Better Performance"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member matkeane Posted January 22, 2019 Author Member Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Hi jfk, The source and target cues were identical (except stage coordinates). It was somewhat related to the other thread about large resolution video playback... Long story short - I hit the HAP import limit at 8000px on the production machine I was using, so split content into 4 UHD slices. Each video clip was made up of 4 separate cues on the timeline but, of course, that then meant that any colour correction had to be applied identically to 4 clips, which is why I was trying to copy-paste hue tweens with a shared generic input. I set up (and tested) the tween and formula on the first video cue, and tried to paste it to the 3 other slices, but no joy. It was about 3am at this point, so I didn't really have the energy to go through all the options methodically to work out why it wasn't working but, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, once I had time to calmly reproduce the problem at the office (with the same media and also some small test images), adding a single keyframe (even if it's ignored by the tween formula) is enough to enable copy-pasting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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