Jonas Dannert
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Genlock7blackburst is a nice (video) feature, although not applicable so much to
WATCHOUT or computer based systems.
There is no genlock to DVI (display output) standard, with standard graphics cards.
AMD FirePro V7900/V9800 cards + a S400 syncboard can achieve that, but it's not a cheap solution.
Datapath HDSDI will lock to the source/s, but has no genlock as such.
Dual HDSDI input into WATCHOUT is not designed to replace a frame-locked HDSDI Video-mixer...
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"how to align multiple projections in an irregular surface without auto-alignment"
I think there is only one good way to do this: Through camera-based Auto-alignment.
There are such systems that integrates well with WATCHOUT, see here:
http://dataton.com/forum/topic/256-automatic-projector-alignmentcalibration/
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Yes, the Windows drivers treats this as two Decklink SDI cards, which it is, in one slot.
WATCHOUT does, too
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"the drivers are the issue, then I guess I would be at the mercy of M-Audio..."
Yes, that is the case.
They have not made any DirectSound compatible drivers for Windows 7.
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What graphic card are you using?
What is the driver version?
Hardware specs on the machine you use for this?
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Brian,
From the WATCHOUT 5.1 manual, P132:
Pre-split
This option applies to video media only. Check this if you have pre-split a large movie, as described on page 42.
In this case, the resulting files must be placed in a folder specified in the File/Folder field.
This folder must contain one file per display intersecting the movie, each file named after its target display.
For example, assume you have a large video called “LargeMovie.mpg” that intersects two displays named “Display 1” and “Display 2”.
You would then pre-split the video into two files. Name those files “Display 1.mpg” and “Display 2.mpg” and
put them in a folder named “LargeMovie”. Finally, specify that folder in the File/Folder field of the video proxy.
◆ IMPORTANT:Always append the proper file extension to the name of either the video files or the folder containing the pre-split files.
This is needed to ensure that the correct video playback mechanism is used.
By default, Windows may not display filename extensions.
To show file extensions, choose “Folder Options” on the Tools menu in Windows Explorer,
click the View tab, and uncheck “Hide extensions for known file types”.
More info is found before and after this page
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Hi JJ,
Yes there is a way tell, it says ACTIVE Displayport adapter in the description and ACTIVE on them.
Like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814999032
I have not seen an active DP->HDMI-adapter, though.
Yours are unfortunately most likely passive...
Here is some additional info from AMD too:
http://support.amd.com/us/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity-dongles.aspx
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You need 4.3 for WORemote to work, I think.
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Did you tested some Systems with a configuration with a V7900 SDI already? If yes, did you detected any enhancements?
No, we have not. But we have discussed the card with AMD, and it did not add any benefits for WATCHOUT use.
The normal latency on a properly configured WATCHOUT system, is approx. 2.2 frames, from input of capture card to the
output of the graphics card, assuming a progressive signal.
Well, I would assume a minimal latency between one or two frames on a ScreenPro or Encore. Apart of any connected Video-Mixer before and any Projector behind the Seamless-Switcher. Anyway… the setups of Devices changes nearly each Project…
Another Questions for Secure:
Is it possible in WO to work with different capture Devices from different Manufacturers?
For example a DeckLink Studio for Video-capture and a Datapath VisionRGB-E2S for Powerpoint capture?
Yes, it's normally used that way. We use a Decklink Duo (2 input), a Datapath E2S (2 input) and a Intensity Pro (1 input)
in our Demo-machines. All inputs could be used simultaneously.
The thing with using all Datapath cards, is that both type of cards, DVI and 3G/HDSDI, uses the same driver.
Meaning less trouble. Blackmagic cards are a bit known for being "picky" about motherboards and/or slots.
For the Motherboard i have a Eye on the Asrock X79 Extreme4-M with an Intel i7-3930K. Could be cuddly on the Slots but it has three PCI Express Slots and one PCI-Slot. One for the GPU, one for the Video-Capture Card and one for the RGB capture-Card. I prefer the MicroATX form factor for small housings. Housing should be a SilverStone SUGO SG01. Then three SSD´s, SATA 600 with 120 GB each.
Looks like nice setup.
Only comment would be that it will be VERY crowded inside such a small box = HOT = reliability issues, especially over time.
I would go for/recommend a 4U 19" rack enclosure. An example: http://www.imashape.com/4u-menu.htm#4806
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2009:
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Produced by Eyebrite:
http://www.eyebrite.se/film/julfilm/
Here are some links:
2010:
2010 New Year:
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Daniel,
some comments:
My decision would be an FirePro V8800 for the GPU
I think V7900 is a better(newer) choice, single-slot instead of dual-slot.
A Sync Board S400 with Genlock
Good choice. Most useful on large LED-walls, or when genlock/framelock is an issue/requirement..
My question for that matter: Has anyone some experience with a capture-card from Deltacast? For example the DELTA-dvi-e 20 ? That card is for example a preferred Modul in a ventuz-machine. Would be nice to use such a card also in a WatchOut system.
This has been tested by us, so far with no success in a DirectX/Direct3D environment, that WATCHOUT uses.
Does not seems to be any faster than the others, without custom drivers.
What Ventuz does I don't know, but this a OEM card, made for the hardware manufacturer, not the general consumer.
How are the other capture cards from Datapath and Black-magic?
For example the Decklink-Series (Black-magic)
Works well, tried and tested with WATCHOUT since many years.
For example the VisionRGB-E2S (Datapath)
Works well, tried and tested with WATCHOUT since many years.
For example the VisionSDI2 (Datapath)
Works well, tried and tested with WATCHOUT.
For example the VidionSD8 (Datapath)
Does work with WATCHOUT, but only one input at the time, at the moment
Especially the latency. Does anybody knows anything about it which card could the best choice of it?
Latency from input oft the card, to the output of the graphics card, on a properly configured system, is approx 2.2 frames.
No major differences on the cards above as long as they are run in progressive mode.
I know. An WatchOut or any computer based System actually never would reach an SPII or Encore about Video-Quality
I think video quality of WATCHOUT could exceed those system, especially if you consider the price difference.
There are also lot of things possible in WATCHOUT, not achievable in a hardware system.
That said, if you need a hardware graphic switcher system, buy that.
especially the latency mentioned. But it would be nice to hear what hardware i should use to come closer to it.
And the latency of the hardware system in question is?
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It is not possible to downgrade a show, and it's not advised to try to install two versions of WATCHOUT on the same machine.
In that case, dual-booth two partitions/disks, is the only recommended way to go.
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This is NOT a limitation of WATCHOUT!!
It's how the graphic cards and it's driver is designed to work.
It has nothing to do with WATCHOUT.
It's entirely possible to get 6 digital DVI outputs IF:
- choosing the proper card
- use the proper ACTIVE DP-DVI adapters
- know how to set them up
If you claim 10 years experience with WATCHOUT, you would know this.
Please read the first post through!!
From above:
Irrespectively the number of connectors, DisplayPort or MiniDisplayPort, all outputs over two (2) “legacy” connectors,
VGA/DVI/HDMI, MUST use ACTIVE DP/MiniDP—>DVI/HDMI adapters, passive will NOT work.
Or use displays/projectors with DP/MDP inputs. Not yet so common, unfortunately.
There are 2 different types of ACTIVE DP/MDP-adapters, Single-Link DVI and Dual-Link DVI.
Single-Link DVI - cheap, resolution up to 1920x1200, powered from the DP/MDP-connector
Dual-Link DVI - more expensive, resolution up to 2560x1600, powered from separete USB or external Power Supply
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Sounds like a neat trick, only thing is that it's hard to lock/sync the two input (Datapath) cards together in WATCHOUT.
There is no equivalent to video genlock for DVI, as far as I know.
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No, I don't think so.
The content for 3D TV:s is mainly made for Active glasses and 120Hz.
WATCHOUT 5 supports passive 3D/Stereoscopy, Infitec or polarized, 1 file per eye/per screen output.
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Maybe look here?
There is no list for turning off System processes, apart from what is possible through Windows GUI/Control panel.
If you feel safe poking around here, by all means feel free to experiment with those settings.
The risk is that you mess things up is quite big, though...
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On a side-note:
MOTU does NOT support DirectSound (part of the DirectX framework WATCHOUT uses),
on more than stereo 2 channels in their drivers for Windows 7, Vista or XP.
So for more than 2 channels in WATCHOUT, one have to choose other solutions.
Tested by us, and found working, is:
Echo Audiofire 12 (up to 12 analog channels in XP, up to 8 in Windows 7), Firewire interface
Echo Audiofire 8 (up to 8 analog channels in XP and Windows 7), same hardware as above
ESI 1010e, (up to 8 analog channels in XP and Windows 7). PCIe interface
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Some thoughts:
- X58 is no more "professional" than Sandy Bridge, P67/Z68, in my view.
We used X58/990X on the Infocomm PC:s to get more possible cores and headroom.
This show actually plays even better on a Z68/2600K system with 3 SSD:s
1 for OS and 2 (RAID 0) for Media/WATCHOUT. It was Corsair Force Series GT:
- There are motherboards without Integrated graphics, for both P67/Z68, ASUS for example:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8P67_REV_31/
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z68_DELUXEGEN3/
- one thing you will not get with a Sandy Bridge, P67/Z68, setup compared to X58,
is the possibility of using a 6-core i7 processor.
- but then you can opt for the new Sandy Bridge-E based X79 motherboards with
3960X or 3930K processors instead...
Re: Bandwidth issues, this will depend on so many factors, content and it's bit-rate, output resolution,
number of input cards and their resolution, disk speed etc, that it will be very hard to say, when you will
bring a Display PC to it's knee's. What you can say, is that it will be much easier to do on a 6 output machine
than on a 2- or 4 output machine, of course. This has to be tested, and your mileage may vary here.
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i7 2600K or 2700K is a very good choice, together with a P67 or Z68 motherboard as a base for a 6-output build.
But it's only one part of the equation, discs is another critical factor.
Preferably use SSD:s, 1 for OS and 1 or more (RAID 0) for Media/WATCHOUT.
You will certainly need the read speed for a 6-output Display PC.
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If you have a "noisy" environment,
ie a lot of adjacent networks, an Airport Extreme base-station is to be preferred over Airport Express.
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It's the show from the version 3.4 / V4 DVD.
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tween freeze live video in 5.2?
in WATCHOUT FORUM
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HI Nick,
There is no such feature currently in WATCHOUT.