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So, due to a computer failure, I am now set up on a new Mac for content creation. I build / animate content as well as program watchout, so I am looking for encoding solutions on the new machine.

Previously I was encoding everything within adobe media encoder, which is certainly a convenient workflow. I already own AfterCodecs, (https://www.autokroma.com/AfterCodecs/) although I has stopped using it after Adobe allowed HAP back into ME natively, as I found AfterCodecs quite slow. I had been using the presets from Disguise, (https://github.com/disguise-one/hap-encoder-adobe-cc/) but on my last show I was having some difficulty with HAP files from ME, especially anything with Alpha. I ended up using the AVF batch exporter instead, which worked great but I also found to be a little slow (https://github.com/Vidvox/hap-in-avfoundation/releases) compared to ME. There is also the HAP quicktime component, (https://github.com/Vidvox/hap-qt-codec/releases) but that hasn't been updated since 2016, and I think the disguise presets basically replaced that? I am also interested in the Jokyo encoder, either the ME version or the standalone, (https://jokyohapencoder.com/jokyo-hap-meencoder-hap-encoder-plugin-for-adobe-media-encoder-and-premiere-pro/) as it is recommended by Dataton now, and none of the other above methods except After Codecs are listed on the official Dataton site. I know many people use FFmpeg, but I am looking for something with a bit more of a UI, doing tasks with code isn't my forte. 

I have a big show coming up in a couple months, and I am looking to set up the best workflow. Ideally it would be within Media Encoder if possible, as I like that I can set up a watch folder, but I am really looking for the best solution as far as quality assurance for files playing properly in WO, and of course encoding speed. Would love to know what people are using on here these days, as some of these methods seem a bit outdated. 

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https://knowledge.dataton.com/knowledge/how-to-encode-hap-files-for-watchout-playback

 

FFmpeg isnt that complicated.

you can always write a .bat command to encode batch videos. you can drag & drop to that .bat or batch encode videos in folder(s)

some people do create UI for ffmpeg, you can google that.

 

if you can setup preset in ME (and tested), then create a watch folder is also a good idea. 

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I went through this same debate recently for a large project.  I always used to use the Disguise plug in for Media Encoder, but since it hasn't been updated I was unable to make it work.  I tried After Codecs and Jokyo for a plug in option, and Shutter Encoder as a stand alone GUI option.  I didn't detect much difference in the final outputs, and found all options simple to use once I learned the interface.  So basically it is fielder's choice.  YMMV!

Steve

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7 hours ago, Morgan Wong said:

 

you can always write a .bat command to encode batch videos.

You already lost me, lol. I do have the AVF encoder which is exactly that, a UI for ffmpeg. 

I am mainly just looking to see what other people are using successfully. I am sure I could figure out ffmpeg if I wanted to, I would just rather a more packaged solution. 

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2 hours ago, Steve Farris said:

I went through this same debate recently for a large project.  I always used to use the Disguise plug in for Media Encoder, but since it hasn't been updated I was unable to make it work.  I tried After Codecs and Jokyo for a plug in option, and Shutter Encoder as a stand alone GUI option.  I didn't detect much difference in the final outputs, and found all options simple to use once I learned the interface.  So basically it is fielder's choice.  YMMV!

Steve

Yeah I have purchased the Jokyo plugin, going to test that against AfterCodecs. Too bad the Disguise plug for Media Encoder isn't a viable option, that was really the most straight forward method for me. 

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