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  2. I need a Display PC with 4 outputs and SDI capture card, without delay

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    I updated to WO v5.


    I want to make a Pcs with 4 output. I need output VGA.


    Can I use adapter mini or display port  to Vga??


     


    Yes, an ACTIVE DP/MDP->VGA will work. Might be hard to come by these days. though.


     


    http://www.accellcables.com/collections/adapters/products/ultraav-displayport-to-vga-active-adapter


    http://www.accellcables.com/collections/adapters/products/ultraav-mini-displayport-to-vga-active-adapter


    http://www.accellcables.com/collections/adapters/products/ultraav-displayport-to-vga-active-adapter-white


    http://www.accellcables.com/collections/adapters/products/ultraav-mini-displayport-to-vga-active-adapter-white


     


     


    Do you check It??


     


    Yes. We have tested with 6 VGA outputs simultaneously.


     


     


    I need a Sdi capture card for a Pcs without delay .


     


    No delay is simply not possible.


     


    I have 2 Pcs with DeckLink Mini Recorder but I have delay. I do not know if It is for the capture card or Pc. 


    The pcs are 4 years old.


     


    It is both. I would build new computers, if possible.


    Zero delay is still not a possibility.


     


     


    Could you get a specification for the pcs??


     


    http://forum.dataton.com/topic/734-watchout-5-technical-notes/


     

     


    /jonas


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  3. If WATCHOUT works with Mac?

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    Thiago,

     

    There is no speculation, WATCHOUT is Windows only.

     

    There is no WATCHOUT version for MacOSX, unfortunately.

     

    But if you have a new Mac with an Intel processor it runs very well with the 

    latest version of emulation software, such as VMWare Fusion and Parallels. 

    It works very well for light production work.

    For more heavy production, it could work as well, if the Preview is turned off.

     

    This applies to the WATCHOUT production computer, do NOT attempt to 

    run WATCHOUT Display computers under emulation software.

     

    Another option on a Mac is of course installing Windows under BootCamp.

    http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/

     

    /jonas

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  7. Hardware configuration server watchout

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    If you have budget concerns, please see my comments below.

     

    /jonas

     

    Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-5820K Processor (15M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz).

    Ok, 6-cores.

    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2133MHz C13 memory kit for DDR4.

    32 GB is unnecessary, 16 GB is quite enough. And cheaper.

     

    SSD: Samsung SSD 850 PRO 512 GB.

    Ok.

    Mother Board: WS X99-E.
    I would go back to the earlier MB, ASUS X99 Pro. Also cheaper.

     

     

    VideoCard: AMD RADEON ™ HD 6990 GPU.

    I would opt for a cheaper card, like a NVidia GTX980, with 3 DP and 1 HDMI/1 DVI, for 4 outputs.

     

    Cooling: Cooler Master - Seidon 120M - LGA 2011 - RL-S12M-24PK-R1.

    Ok, watercooling is a good choice.

     

    Energy Source: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 G2 Power Supply.

    1600W of PSU is a bit much, I think. 1000W is probably enough. And cheaper.

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  8. Suggestions for Small Form Factor WO Computer...

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    Curtis,

     

    This type of box has been used successfully.
    http://store.antec.com/new-solution/nsk1380.html#

     

    nsk1380.jpg

     

    It's a bit bigger than a Shuttle, ie will fit a microATX motherboard with 4 PCIe-slots.
     

    We've not built any computers based upon this box, so as they say on their website,

    any microATX motherboard will fit the box, which are not too many at the moment...

     

    ASRock Fatal1ty X99M Killer: 

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/8391/asrock-shows-x99-microatx-the-x99m-killer

    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/09/09/x99-motherboard-group-test-asrock-asus-e/3

    http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty%20X99M%20Killer/index.asp?cat=

     

    Has a Ultra M2-slot (PCIe x4)

     

    EVGA X99 Micro:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-x99-micro-motherboard,3956.html

    http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=131-HE-E995-KR

     

    GIGABYTE X99M-Gaming 5

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/8737/gigabyte-launches-x99mgaming-5-microatx-for-haswelle

    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/09/09/x99-motherboard-group-test-asrock-asus-e/4

    http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5125#ov

     

    Has a M2-slot (PCIe x2)

     

    /jonas

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  9. Hardware configuration server watchout

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    Hi,

     

    my comments below.

     

    /jonas

     

    Hello friends
    I'm riding four servers to use watchout .
    would like to know the evaluation of you on this equipment , would change anything?
    Thank you very much.

     

    Processor: Intel® Core ™ i7-5960X 8 núcleos de Processador Extreme Edition (20M Cache, comeu 3,50 GHz).

    Memory : Kingston HyperX Predator - Kit 16GB * (4x4GB) - DDR4 2133MHz CL13 Intel XMP DIMM.

    SSD: Kingston HyperX 3K SSD - 120GB SH103S3 / 120G.

    Mother Board: Asus X99 Pro.

    Videocard: AMD FirePro ™ W9100.

    Cooling: Cooler Master - Seidon 120M - LGA 2011 - RL-S12M-24PK-R1.

    Energy Source: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 G2 Power Supply.

     

    With a 8-core processor and an AMD FirePro W9100 chosen, I would opt to change this below:

    SSD: Kingston HyperX 3K SSD - 120GB SH103S3 / 120G.

    -  I would use 1 SSD for OS and 2 SSD's in RAID 0 for MEDIA/WATCHOUT.

       Samsung 840/850 PRO is a good choice.

     

    Mother Board: Asus X99 Pro.

    - I would use an ASUS X99-E WS.

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  10. Watchout Display Computer spec (is this ok?)

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    Thanks for your reply

     

    What do you mean by this? to use the proper codec, resolution, etc?

    This is what I mean:

    http://forum.dataton.com/topic/1420-coming-back-after-3-years-need-advices/?do=findComment&comment=5693

     

    This thread could also be useful, W600 has been discussed many times in the Forum,

    a search for "W600" or "multi-output" confirms this:

    http://forum.dataton.com/topic/1512-new-watchout-display-computers-hardware-config/

     

     

    /jonas

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  11. Watchout Display Computer spec (is this ok?)

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    Hello, i work in an audiovisual company in Argentina (mapping and video installations).

    www.sasami.com.ar

     

    We actually own 4 watchout licenses. We are upgrading our 3 display computers.

     

    I got budgets based on the 2012's .PDF of this forum. Some components are newer versions of those of the pdf. 

     

    We only work with XGA projectors (only a few times we use HD projectors). So, our principal need is to achieve 4/6 VGA analog outputs in each display computer (we may have to use miniDP-VGA, DP-VGA or DVI-VGA adaptors)

     

    Option 1:

    -MOTHER GIGABYTE (1150) GA-Z97M-D3H)

    -1 INTEL CORE I7 4790

    -2 RAM KINGSTON DDR3 HYPER-X 8GB 1600MHZ

    -2 SSD-KINGSTON 240GB SATA3

    -1 VIDEO CARD ASUS R9 280X 3GB DDR5 (2miniDP + 1HDMI + 1DVI-D + 1DVI, i think that we may use 4 VGA outputs with this card)

    -POWER SENTEY MBP-850W

    -1/2 BLACKMAGIC INTENSITY PRO

     

    This seems OK.

     

     

    OPTION 2 (The only difference is the video card):

    -2 VIDEO CARD SAPPHIRE R9 270X 2GB DDR5

     

    This will not work, WATCHOUT will only use one graphic card for output.

     

     

     

    I also found this graphic card with 6 miniDP outputs, do you thing is better than de ones above for 4/6 VGA outputs? 

     

    - AMD FirePro W600 2GB GDDR5 6 Mini DisplayPort Eyefinity 6 Edition PCI-Express Graphics Card

     

    - AMD FirePro W7000 4GB GDDR5 4DisplayPort PCI-Express Workstation Graphics Card

     

    I hope you can help me.

     

    Thanks in advance

     

    W600 will work for 6 outputs, with video playback primarily.

    This will require proper control over the content used.

     

    W7000 is a more capable graphics card, but has 4 outputs.

    This is a really good choice.

     

    /jonas

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  13. Codec question

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    Curtis,

    Please see my inline comments below.

    /jonas


    I know apple ProRes is not a recommended playback codec, however I have had a few clients request it after explaining otherwise... One gallery was so set on it they went with another playback solution..

    Question, how does one install pro res to even test?  I thought it was part of qt.

    It is part of QuickTime Player for Windows, currently at version 7.7.6, as far as I know.


    After reinstalling qt no video is decoded only sound.
    The apple codec download for windows prores 1.0 (older I think) failed to install.

    No download should be necessary, see above.
    However, not all available ProRes profiles are supported on Windows.

    Be aware that ProRes playback is very hardware resource intensive.

     

     

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  15. display cluster

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    Assaf,

     

    Please see my inline comments below.

     

    /jonas

     

     

    another thing. i use hdmi outputs. after shutting down the projectors and turning back on the software crashes because the screens are lost.

     

    This is an EDID failure, due to the projector does not give you any EDID when turned off.

     

     

    is there any way to avoid this?

     

    Oh yes, using EDID Managers like TMB:s DVI Parrot or Gefen DVI Detective, on all outputs,

    as mentioned frequently here on the Forum, will remedy this.

    Newer professional graphics cards like AMD FirePro or NVidia Quadro, have this built-in.

     

     

    is there any command for re launch the software ?

     

    In this case I think Windows needs to be re-booted, anyway.

    One way of course, is to turn OFF the WATCHOUT-system before turning OFF the projectors,

    Then turning ON the projectors before the WATCHOUT-system.

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  16. AMD Firepro w600 video cards

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    Scott,

     

    please look into this earlier post by Jim Kellner:

    http://forum.dataton.com/topic/1420-coming-back-after-3-years-need-advices/?do=findComment&comment=5693

     

    "As for those tempted to use the FirePro W600, beware, the GPU is a bit weak for WATCHOUT.
    The W600 is targeted at home video applications, not so much for DirectX 3D accelerated apps.
    If all you are doing is video playback and very little with tween tracks, no masking, no keying, etc.
    you might get away with the W600. That implies you have control of the content and its programming".   ;) 

     

     

    /jonas

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  17. Watchout 4.5.1 Startup Problem

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    Or maybe use this feature in WATCHOUT? 

    (does not help in 4.5.1, I know...)

     

    from the WATCHOUT 5.5 Release Notes:

     

     

    Startup Delay

     

    A command line option is added to the display software, allowing a delay to be introduced when the software is started.

    This may occasionally help in avoiding start-up problems, by delaying the start of the display software until things have settled down.

    To use this feature, append -Delay 3 to the shortcut used to start the display software ("WATCHPOINT.EXE"),

    where 3 is the desired delay in seconds.

     

    /jonas

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  18. Watchout 4.5.1 Startup Problem

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    I think Joel is asking for the "usual" way to make a Display PC autostart into WATCHOUT Display/Watchpoint, no?

     

    ie placing a shortcut to Watchpoint in Windows Startup folder.

    That's all one need to do, on a properly configured system.

     

    Daniel: A Display PC should always be run as Administrator...please see the Tweaklist.

                If you run a lot of other setups on the same machine, you're on your own a bit...

                I usually use separate OS:es/SSD:s when doing this, to avoid issues.

                A 2,5" multi disk cage in the front of the machine helps a lot here

     

    /jonas

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  24. New Watchout Display Computer's hardware Config

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    Praps,

     

    Please see my inline comments below,

     

    /jonas

     

    Hi All,

     

    I will be using Watchout for the first time, these are the hardware specs that my vendor gave me.

     

    Please have a look and advise on the same.

     

    4U Industrial Cabinet

    I7 4770K

    Asus or Giga z87/97

    16 GB RAM

    RAID 0 of SSD 250GB

     

    I would recommend a 6-core processor, as i7-5820k over a 4-core.
     
    CPU and MOTHERBOARD
    Pro:           a 6-core (i7-4930K/4960X/5820K/5930K) or a 8-core Core i7 CPU (i7-5930X) and a X79 or X99-based motherboard.
    Entrylevel: a 4-core Core i7 CPU (i7-4770K/4970K) and a Z87/Z97-based motherboard
     
    16 GB of RAM
     
    Always use SSD's, not HDD.
    Preferably one for OS and one for MEDIA, where WATCHOUT is installed. (can be RAID 0)
     
    More info here also, soon to be updated:

     

     

    GPU W5100- 4GB DDR5

     

    Don't use AMD FirePro W5100, it's a bit weak for WATCHOUT use.

     

    GRAPHICS CARD
    Both higher end Consumer (game) and Workstation (professional) graphics cards can be used. 
    It all comes down to your application, budget and needs of the project.
     
    We usually recommend pro graphics card, like AMD FirePro W7100 or NVidia Quadro K5200
    Both can use optional frame-locking/sync cards, if needed, too. 
    (Not available on consumer graphics cards)
     
    Examples below:
    AMD consumer: Radeon R9 series 295X 290/290X 280/280X
    AMD pro: FirePro W7100/8100/9100 and to some extent W600
    NVidia consumer: GeForce GTX Titan/GTX 970/980
    NVidia pro: Quadro K5200/K4200

     

     

     

    I will be also using a DATAPATH VisionRGB e2s2 card and

    Blackmagic Decklink Studio 4K .

     

    An alternative to Blackmagic Decklink Studio 4K is Datapath VisionSDI2, with 2 3G-SDI inputs.

     

     

    Please let me know if its OK? or shall I change something.

     

    Thanks....

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  25. Blackmagic HDMI Intensity Pro Display restart

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    Not surprising at all. And not a WATCHOUT issue, I think.

    BMD Intensity Pro does not support hotswap of the HDMI cable,
    instead it either freezes or crashes the BMD driver which can lock up
    Windows. WATCHOUT have no way to counter this, hence it stops.
    A restart, with the HDMI signal already applied, will cure this.

    Datapath cards does not suffer from this behaviour, they support hotswap of cables.

    /jonas

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