MacDVD Posted January 13, 2023 Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 Hello I'm going crazy. i'm using watchout 6.7.2, and a watchpax 4. The lan is all at 1 Gb/s, the producre laptop is ah HP Pavillion with AMD Ryzen 7 4800H with Radeon Graphics 2.90 GHz , m2 disk, 20 GB Ram, windows 10 64 Bit. I'm working with 4x4k output, on watchpax. i am using HAP files and i have to upload about 70GB of files, but it takes about 3 hours or more. the strange thing is that with another laptop, older than mine and less performing than mine, it takes about 20 minutes. i tried plugging an ethernet adapter to usb-c on my laptop, but nothing changes. I see that the transfer does not exceed 100 Mb/s, and I can see on the ethernet graph that there are many times the slow upload at 8/10 Mb/s. I have already tried all suggestions found on the web, regarding slow transfer on windows, but never solved the problem. I'm sure the problem is on my laptop, but I haven't found a solution. I've been using watchout for events and it's very frustrating to finish loading content 5 minutes before the event starts every time. Is there someone who can help me? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator jfk Posted January 13, 2023 Moderator Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 There is a known issue with slow transfers on WATCHOUT Display servers running Windows 7 (which includes WATCHPAX 4) and WATCHOUT Production running Windows 10 or 11. File transfers are at normal speed when the production server is also running Windows 7. While it is suspected this relates to different default NIC settings between Windows 7 and Windows 10, no one has specifically identified the settings to correct this. I did hear from one user who added an additional NIC to his production server and the issue went away, but again the significant settings of the new NIC were not identified. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDVD Posted January 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, jfk said: There is a known issue with slow transfers on WATCHOUT Display servers running Windows 7 (which includes WATCHPAX 4) and WATCHOUT Production running Windows 10 or 11. File transfers are at normal speed when the production server is also running Windows 7. While it is suspected this relates to different default NIC settings between Windows 7 and Windows 10, no one has specifically identified the settings to correct this. I did hear from one user who added an additional NIC to his production server and the issue went away, but again the significant settings of the new NIC were not identified. Thx for your quick reply. But i cannot add to the watchpax media serve a nic, or i've to find an usb3 nic interface... i try to find it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator jfk Posted January 13, 2023 Moderator Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, MacDVD said: Thx for your quick reply. But i cannot add to the watchpax media serve a nic, or i've to find an usb3 nic interface... i try to find it. The NIC was added to the production computer, not the WATCHPAX. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDVD Posted January 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 23 minutes ago, jfk said: The NIC was added to the production computer, not the WATCHPAX. Already try this, with a USB-c adapter, but nothing change 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator jfk Posted January 13, 2023 Moderator Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 Difficult to know what NIC setting caused the third party NIC to overcome the issue. Clearly there must have been something different with different vendors defaults. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDVD Posted January 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, jfk said: Difficult to know what NIC setting caused the third party NIC to overcome the issue. Clearly there must have been something different with different vendors defaults. in my sistuation is very strange, i've two laptop, one is working but is old and less performer, the second one is good performer, with the same nic vendors, but is not working, and also with a new nic adapter, by another vendor, is not working. crazy situation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiesemann Posted January 15, 2023 Report Share Posted January 15, 2023 This is why I never bothered to even look at HAP after seeing, that even a short HD film ends up with a ridiculous filesize. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDVD Posted January 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 2:03 PM, wiesemann said: This is why I never bothered to even look at HAP after seeing, that even a short HD film ends up with a ridiculous filesize. Hello, the HAP is the highest quality I have used on Whatchout. I've tried different types of codecs, but also MP4 which is lightweight, but I haven't found good quality in association with the best fluency. do you have any suggestions on a good codec to use? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiesemann Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 at some point we had Watchout play single AppleProRes422 files that were 6k sonething by 1080 px wide at a framerate of 25 fps. I assume, when splitting them one could get pretty far. Otherwise I have been using Mp4, after mpeg2 and WMV were basically out of the business. The latter looked sharper than Mp4.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Ramos Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 Use a direct USB transfer. Go on line for WO to create the folders and files names on the display machine, then take the USB drive to the machine and manualy transfer the files. This works well if only on or two machines are being used. USB 3.1 is faster than ethernet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member keitht Posted January 29, 2023 Member Report Share Posted January 29, 2023 Hello. I am the one user Jim quoted above to have “solved.” I did not just add an additional NIC. I added 10G NICs to both the production and the servers (and of course 10G switches). Not exactly the cheapest solution, but it did seem to solve. I had previously spent months and months troubleshooting and work-arounds. I remain sure that there are some settings, somewhere, in either the prod or server NIC that would solve, but I was unable to track it down. Before I took the 10G leap, my workaround was to use the 2nd NIC in both to create a 2nd network in a different range with sharing enabled. That worked for transfer speed, but sometimes causes communications problems as WO still cannot give us the ability to manually choose the NIC for use in communications. I hope this helps. -kt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDVD Posted January 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 5:08 PM, Alex Ramos said: Use a direct USB transfer. Go on line for WO to create the folders and files names on the display machine, then take the USB drive to the machine and manualy transfer the files. This works well if only on or two machines are being used. USB 3.1 is faster than ethernet. i think one thing is missing for me, how i can transfer manually on the Watchpax? i never seen a file manager on it. if is possible, could be a good workaround. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Ramos Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 You need a keyboard and mouse. Click CTRL + ALT + DEL and from Task manager go to File - Run new task and write Explorer.exe File explore should pop up, from there do your stuff. I have not tried this, but it should work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDVD Posted August 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 1/29/2023 at 4:12 PM, keitht said: Hello. I am the one user Jim quoted above to have “solved.” I did not just add an additional NIC. I added 10G NICs to both the production and the servers (and of course 10G switches). Not exactly the cheapest solution, but it did seem to solve. I had previously spent months and months troubleshooting and work-arounds. I remain sure that there are some settings, somewhere, in either the prod or server NIC that would solve, but I was unable to track it down. Before I took the 10G leap, my workaround was to use the 2nd NIC in both to create a 2nd network in a different range with sharing enabled. That worked for transfer speed, but sometimes causes communications problems as WO still cannot give us the ability to manually choose the NIC for use in communications. I hope this helps. -kt yep, but this solution is available only if you don't use the Watchpax, because i cannot add a nic or change the nic installed, in the Pax server. I solved the problem using a desktop computer, like production, where i can chage the nic, and i found the one is working. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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