KaiGerner Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 https://github.com/Vidvox/hap-qt-codec/releases Finally Hap Q Alpha Be careful it's still Pre-release! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Rönnqvist Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 And not yet supported in Watchout. /Erik 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member mindopera Posted April 21, 2016 Member Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 I'm confused the WO manual says it is supported. In order to include transparency information in the video file, you must choose a codec that supports this, such as the Animation or HAP codecs. If exporting the video, set to use “Millions+” of colors. The “+” at the end stands for the transparency information. This is sometimes called “Millions+Alpha”. You must also use an application that’s capable of reproducing and/or generating transparency information, such as Adobe After Effects. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Rönnqvist Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 In Watchout 6 we currently support three different flavours of Hap: Hap: Standard Hap, no alpha HapAlpha: Same quality as Hap (Standard), but with alpha channel. HapQ: Higher quality than standard Hap (mainly in the form of better color resolution), but with no support for alpha. There is now also HapQAlpha, which has the same quality as HapQ, and with aalpha channel. This is not (yet) supported in Watchout. I hope this clears it up! /Erik 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisejs Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Which version of HAP codec do you recommend to use with Watchout 6.1.2? Version 9, 10 or 11 or it doesnt metter as far as I dont use HapQAlpha? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Rönnqvist Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 Normally I would recommend the latest version, since it probably contains important bug fixes. If you are running Watchout 6.1.2 you may also used chunked encoding, which is useful to increase decoding speed especially for very large videos. But stay away from HapQ+Alpha. /Erik 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dataton Partner Benoit Posted September 7, 2016 Dataton Partner Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Hello Erik, Any idea on how to select "chunked encoding" in After effect? Thx, Benoit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Rönnqvist Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Hello! Unfortunately I have no idea about after effects. I have tested chunks mainly with ffmpeg using the following command line: ffmpeg -i Movie.mov -vcodec hap -format hap_q -chunks 8 MovieHapQ.mov This will convert Movie.mov to a HapQ movie using 8 chunks, which means that Watchout can decode the movie using 8 threads simultaneously, which could give a major performance enhancement, as long as the disks are able to keep up. /Erik 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicb Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 Hi, as a intermediate solution please give the following the AVF Batch Encoder v1.6 for this source: https://github.com/Vidvox/hap-in-avfoundation/releases/tag/1.4a trial. Perfect for transcoding and re-compression of content. For HAP, HAP Alpha, HAP Q and HAP Q Alpha you can choose between no chunks (default) and up to 8 chunk encoding. It's using the QuickTime Components for PJPEG, H.264, ProRes 422, ProRes 4444, HAP, HAP Alpha, HAP Q an HAP Q Alpha from /Library/QuickTime, directly. You will only need to install the HAP package (which version ever you like to use) by yourself, in addition. You can change the frame size, strip, copy or transcode the audio tracks. Additionally you can leave the video without re-compression. Another big benefit is the processing speed, without any virtual bottle necks. Kind regards, Nic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetonesblue Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Is this a Mac only program? How about PC users? (We do use PC to use WO anyway, right? ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude.Rivet Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 ffmpeg for the win, I just love this package, so many possibilities and you can then attach your scripts to the right click menu in windows to convert in place with no config or GUI. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitreklov Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Claude, could you share more details on the ffmpeg package you use and the scripting method, i'm intrigued. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude.Rivet Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 mitreklov Sure, I basically use veranoe FFMPEG for windows. Then I write batch files in windows to encode to HAP, I make sure the size is divisible by 4 and pad accordingly, I make sure audio is discarded or rendered to a separate file if appropriate, I also use 8 chunks since I have an 8 core (16 thread) processor, I append -WO to the filename before the extension and wrap it in a .mov container. I then use the registry to attach the batch file to the right click menu of the explorer. When I subsequently right click a file I am offered the option to "Convert for Watchout" (the name of my script) which opens a command windows showing the progress and stats of the encode as it is encoding, the resulting file sits beside the other one in the folder with a name like "final file-WO.mov". I can deal with up to 15 simultaneous files (8cores/16 thread). Super easy and very powerful, here is a link to help you attach the batch file to the right click menu: http://fluorware.tumblr.com/post/12786344562/integrate-ffmpeg-in-right-click-menu-to-convert I am not beside my stations right now but I guess I can post the batch file content when I will be able to copy it so we can all make it better and end up with a superb encoder for Watchout. I could also post an installer but I am not sure how the license works for ffmpeg and I don't want to get in trouble. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEdgerly Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Any updates on if/when HAP Q Alpha will be supported? I am doing a lot of 4k output on an upcoming show. Animation w/alpha channel is chugging, so I was very pleased with the results from HAP Alpha. I am seeing more compression artifacts that are reduced greatly with HAP Q, but the Alpha channel is the cleanest workflow for me. Still not working as of 6.1.4. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGee Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Not sure if this is the correct forum, but I am working on rendering out AT file with HAP Alpha codec from AE CC via media encoder and it is taking my computer 4-9hrs per project to render the file. These files are not large. Is there any way to quicken the process or is it normal amount of time for HAP codec. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Quim Posted March 31, 2017 Member Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 I need to encode HAP files for Watchpax 4. Does it may sense to use chunks for it? I yes, how many? Best regards, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Rönnqvist Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 If using chunks makes sense depends on the resolution. If the videos play without using chunks, you are (slightly) better off without using chunks. If not, as few chunks as possible, to get reliable playback without stuttering, would make most sense, since each chunk adds a slight overhead. In case you need to use chunks, four chunks should cover most cases. Going beyond 8 chunks in a WP4 will most likely just make things worse. /Erik 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkohler Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 I'd encourage everyone to voice their support for the need for proper chunk support in the HAP quicktime library, so maybe someday this will work out of the Adobe Suite https://github.com/Vidvox/hap-qt-codec/issues/31 MK 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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