Jonas Dannert Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Hi all, I've updated some recommended specifications for Display/Production computers. They are based on Ivy Bridge (LGA1155/Z77) and Sandy Bridge-E (LGA2011/X79) chipsets/processors respectively. Meant as a base/guidelines for new computer builds, please feel free to add on or remove to/from them. We are using Sandy Bridge-E/LGA2011/X79 for our Infocomm 2012 show computers. Please find the specs enclosed. /jonas WATCHOUT-dpcspec rack 4U - 2012 apr IB LGA1155.pdf WATCHOUT-dpcspec rack 4U - 2012 apr SB LGA1155.pdf WATCHOUT-dpcspec rack 4U - 2012 apr SB-E LGA2011.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaarlek Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 I'm glad to see that my choices for hardware has been approved by Dataton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Dannert Posted May 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 This is NOT approved by Dataton, it's meant as a starting point or guide. Links should work now, too... /jonas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaarlek Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Hi Quick question - why is the Power Supply on the Sandy Bridge-E (LGA2011/X79) setup 1200W ? I did my calculations and didnt get over 600W of power usage.. of did I miss with the calculations? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Dannert Posted June 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Hi, This is not written in stone, feel free to use whatever works for your specific use. This was intended as headroom for using many components in a box. /jonas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judgedave Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 I would like to ask if there is a way to make the media on the Display PC save on the RAID not on the System Drive's User folder. Thanks. D. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator jfk Posted June 10, 2012 Moderator Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 I would like to ask if there is a way to make the media on the Display PC save on the RAID not on the System Drive's User folder. Thanks. D. Short answer is yes. Simplest and safest way is to uninstall WATCHOUT and reinstall it on the RAID drive, then it will save all its assets there. Alternate way is described here: Forcing WO display pc's to use second disk When you use the command line trick, you must always start from the modified shortcut. When you install the WATCHOUT application software on the RAID, that is not a concern. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDub Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Quick question, Is this the the variant of the "ASUS RADEON HD7970 3GB GDDR5 PCI-‐E DVI x 2/DP x 4" you are spec'ing? There are are a couple of slightly different iterations. One with only 4 outputs and another one with some mild overclocking (albeit with 1 dual link and 1 single link as opposed to both DVI outputs being dual link.) I'm just looking to clarify. Thank you so much. BTW... A big thank you once again to Jim, Jim and Mark for the superb instruction in Chicago a couple of weeks ago. It was very enlightening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Dannert Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 It's either this card: http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/AMD_Series/HD7970DC23GD5/ or this card: http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/AMD_Series/HD7970DC2T3GD5/ These both have 4 DP and two DVI. Dual-link or not is not an issue, I think, Single-link supports up to 1920x1200/60Hz The over-clocked card does not add anything useful to WATCHOUT, but it might be an availability question instead. The price difference is negligible. Remember to use ACTIVE DP to DVI-adapters. /jonas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabiosribeiro Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 I have some doubts about the chassi EYE 4806. Is there space enough to this graphic card ( HD7970 ) and a solution to have the water cooler since the water pipes are short ( Intell RTS2011LC ) ? I'm following the specs ( 23, may 12 ), however the chassi is different because we don't have the same available in Brazil, but i'm using another one pretty similar, the sizes and specs are the same and I had some problems with the space for video card and water cooler. An extended chassi is needed. Here is the chassi model I have with the same sizes of the EYE 4806. http://www.nilko.com.br/gabinetes19/pbl/htm/#/Listagem_de_Produtos?id=10&produto=4U%20NK211%20ATX 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Dannert Posted September 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Please, all, as stated in post #1, 3 and 5 above: This is NOT a list of examples to be slavishly copied or followed. "Meant as a help and base/examples/guidelines for new computer builds, please feel free to add on or remove to/from them" Use whatever solution that works for you, and are available in your market. The "4U NK211 ATX" seems like a good choice. For the record, the Intel RTS2011LC, fits inside the EYE-4806, left front side, WITH a HD7970, after some mechanical work to the front. Intel RTS2011LC water pipes are quite a bit longer than other coolers. Please note that some of the Z77/X79 higher-end motherboards with maximum PCIe slots, is bigger (longer) than the ATX format (12'x9,6' / 305 × 244mm). (E-ATX/CEB/EEB) They will require deeper cabinets. Some other examples/ideas on chassies, from this thread; http://dataton.com/forum/topic/572-rackmount-4u-and-120mm-rear-fan/ Compucase - http://www.hec-group.com.tw/rackmount_chassis/4u/ Needs mechanical work Codegen - http://www.codegenworld.com/products.asp?max_id_search=20 No need for mechanical work http://www.codegenworld.com/showdetails.asp?max_id_search=20&min_id_search=&pro_id_search=203 http://www.codegenworld.com/showDetails.asp?max_id_search=20&min_id_search=&pro_id_search=204 Black Ark Technology (similar to Codegen) - http://www.directron.com/ipc4u600.html No need for mechanical work Image & Shapetek - http://www.imashape.com/4u-menu.htm Needs mechanical work http://www.imashape.com/4u-menu.htm#4806 /jonas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Showsite Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 @ Jonas... Jonas, what is a good baseline for a production machine only? Would you ever consider a laptop with quad core i7 and heavy on all other components? Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dataton Partner Walter Posted October 8, 2012 Dataton Partner Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Not sure what Jonas will recommend, but for my personal experience: used a i5 laptop last major show (yesterday in London) and had no issues at all. Of course system was tweened according to guidelines, performed great, even with numerous hd streams previewing in the stage area at hq. (hp probook 4740s, so not even an high-end system). Normally i always use one of the display systems to have the live video and data preview, but had to use all of my systems as displaysystem (needed almost all of the outputs). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eithan Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Hello, Would you please have computer specs for a total beginner interested in watching tutorials and experiment with free production software, if possible also for a laptop. Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Dannert Posted December 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 For that, one can use almost any laptop. A discrete graphics card, ie not a integrated graphics card and a SSD will be a plus. /jonas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Lloyd Stewart Posted February 17, 2017 Member Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 I took the USA Watchout training near Detroit some years back. I think we were using Watchout 3 back then. Anyway, I believe I remember David Branson, our instructor, saying that all the production computer does when running a show is send out simple cues to the display computers. That sounds like something that even the most basic/cheapest of laptops could do. Is that still the case? I do production/creation of shows on a rather high end desktop and of course my display computer is top notch. So, just for running the show, can I just buy a $300 cheapy laptop to do so? I didn't know whether, as we progress in ever increasing versions of Watchout, whether I need to purchase something more robust to use as a simple laptop to run the show, or if I can be a cheapskate and buy something simple. Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator jfk Posted February 18, 2017 Moderator Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 ... all the production computer does when running a show is send out simple cues to the display computers. That sounds like something that even the most basic/cheapest of laptops could do. Is that still the case?! No. This actually changed near the end of the v3 run, IIRC. Back in those days the timing master was a watchpoint computer even when watchmaker was used and the above statement was correct. That has since changed. When watchmaker is in use, it now takes on the system timing master role. i.e. there is a continuous stream of timing and system status data broadcast by watchmaker when online. That is not to say a low cost computer is insufficient. You may need to run video as thumbnails in preview, but no harm in that. What is critical is reliability. As of today, Windows 7 is still the OS of choice for the most reliable system. If you can find a unit with Windows 7 drivers, and tune it carefully, then it should be fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Lloyd Stewart Posted February 18, 2017 Member Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Thanks Jim! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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