Jonas Dannert

No, there is not, as of now, unfortunately. /jonas

My answer from your question, simultaneously asked at support@dataton.com: Hi Terry, Please see my inline comments below. Best Regards Dataton Support/jonas tisdag 5 augusti 2014 skrev Terry Harper <tharper@chicagooperatheater.org>: Hello, Will Watchout support multiple Live capture Cards? Yes. If so, how many will it support? WATCHOUT supports up to 12 Live input channels. How many one can actually use, depends type of computer hardware and type of capture card available. Free PCI Express slots and their size/speed, on the motherboard will limit what's possible. My Director wants 4 live cameras...how can I do this? By using a 4 inputs Blackmagic Design Decklink Quad HDSDI capture card (PCIE x8 slot needed) Or by using 2 Blackmagic Design Decklink Duo HDSDI capture cards (2 PCIE x4 slots needed) For 3G-SDI resolutions, ie 1080p50/59.94/60, a Datapath VisionSDI2 will be needed. Please work with your computer supplier to verifiy and test this setup, for a stable system.

:-) Thanks Jim for the answer, would be nice if Rob could verifiy. But.... 1) I view a multiviewer as a physical connection to the graphics card 2) with EDID Managers on every output I would guess there would be no issues. /jonas

What is "internal AMD spoofing? What is an "SVG Multi-viewer? Why is this used? Try to connect physical Displays to your outputs, same result? /jonas

Chester, This should normally not be an issue How is MIDI connected exactly? Through which device? Production or Display? Where are you situated? /jonas

This is what I recommend, if having installation issues: Please perform a clean un-install/re-install on the computers: Clean UN-install & RE-install of WATCHOUT Start with the Production computer: 1) Disconnect the CodeMeter or WIBU-key dongle. 2) Uninstall WATCHOUT and CodeMeter and/or WIBU-key software. 3) Restart. 4) Remove any eventual remaining WATCHOUT and CodeMeter and/or WIBU-key parts on the computer (In some, rare, cases, this even requires cleaning the registry, running "regedit" from Run...) 5) Install the new WATCHOUT again, fresh. 6) Restart. 7) Connect the key again and let it install. 8) Do the same process on your Display computer/s 9) Launch your show and go online. QuickTime should be the latest, 7.7.5 or later. /jonas

Please try R9 series instead. /jonas

And your source is? Which driver version? Setting chosen in Display software? (Not WDM) Checked in Blackmagic Media Express first? /jonas

Isn't this an AMD question? WATCHOUT can be set up for 2K. http://www.amd.com/documents/2793_W7000_DataSheet_R4.pdf /jonas

@TomT, "when using a MST-Hub no need of active adapters, because the MST is active itself. Tested. But maybe active Adapters are better i didn´t tested it." We tested this too, and it seems that we could not get full SL DVI resolution with passive adapters, which should be supported" 3 times 1024x768 was OK, but 3 times 1920x1080 where not. Tested with R9 270X graphics cards of two types and Club3D/EVGA MST-hubs. http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?pid=2043 http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/R9270XDC24GD5/ http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/products/reader.en/product/mst-hub-1-3.html http://www.evga.com/products/Product.aspx?pn=200-DP-1301-L1 This might account for some of the stability issues some of you experienced. Found this note on Accell's website on their MST-hub: http://www.accellcables.com/products/ultraav-displayport-1-2-mst-multi-display-hub • Testing has found a lack of compatibility with some systems when converting using DVI or HDMI adapters. Recommended for use with DisplayPort monitors Seems like they are not totally confident in that it will work stable with DP adapters to "legacy" graphics outputs. So testing is important, you mileage may vary here. /jonas

No, you can not get 18 outputs from one graphic card with 6 MST hubs. Both AMD Eyefinity and WATCHOUT gives you a maximum 6 outputs in total, from one card. /jonas

As long as it's OK that each of those 1 to 3 outputs are treated as one, wide output in WATCHOUT, ie no separate positioning, geometry or color correction etc and the PC hardware at hand, can support the playback demand, sure, why not. Not tested, though. /jonas

If you need 9 outputs in total, two DisplayPC:s is required, each with up to 6 output possible. /jonas

"For watchout all the 3 output from MST are treated as 1, so no edge blending, no geometry, no color correction. There's probably more, but I can't see it now." Sorry Alex, that is not correct info. At DisplayPort 1.2 and a MST hub, all outputs works as separate outputs. This is tried and tested. /jonas

And use ACTIVE DisplayPort adapters on the MST-hubs output side, it seems. Accell, Club3D and EVGA is some brands, they look pretty similar to me. /jonas

Agree with TomT here, some comments below. "Radeon R9 280X - 3GB GDDR5 - PCI Express 3.0 x16 - 2 x DVI, 4 x DisplayPort" Most likely out of production now, too. "Or any AMD with two mini-Displayport and two MST Hubs" I would like to add that they still need to be reasonable powerful (ie R9 series) and preferably have 2-3GB of graphics RAM. /jonas

"that media is linked with an absolute path (z:/network/folder/media/images/etc), while adding media through the menu links it with a relative path (media/images/etc)" Is this really a drag and drop issue? I don't think so, when having a Show-folder with: 1 - the showfile in question 2 - a Media folder where one put/copy ALL intended media for the Show, before dragging them into the Show or project. To me this is standard procedure, meaning relative links to all media content. Any content added into the Show, from OUTSIDE the Show-folder, without copying them into that folder first, will inevitably have an absolute path to the media, dragged in or imported. Only way to get rid of that is of course to consolidate the Show in question to a new folder. Or did I miss something here? /jonas

Yes, of course. /jonas

But, as Jim stated above: They, too, will not work, as those BMD Decklink cards / outputs do not support Microsft DirectX 3D acceleration on the output side, which is an absolute requirement for WATCHOUT. http://forum.dataton.com/topic/1348-watchout-with-hdsdi-output/?p=5385&do=findComment&comment=5385 /jonas

Matrix MIO 2 as capture cards? No, we have not. /jonas

Or cheaper, Blackmagic DVI Extender /jonas

Please look here for more info: www.dataton.com/store/product/watchout/watchpax-2 http://dataton.com/downloads/watchout/WATCHPAX_2_art_no_3362.pdf /jonas

Dear Madhur, From: http://forum.dataton.com/topic/93-wo5-multi-output/ WATCHOUT 5 - Multi output All outputs MUST come from one card. WATCHOUT 5 Multi output ONLY works with one graphics card. That one graphics card may have up to six (6) outputs, provided the graphics card vendor includes driver support for multiple outputs under DirectX/Direct3D mode. This should be in extended desktop mode, do NOT involve any Eyefinity group setup. All outputs also MUST be the same resolution AND refresh rate. This is not so much a limitation of WATCHOUT 5, this is inherent to the graphic card setup. Also related to keeping the sync between the different outputs. /jonas

http://dataton.com/downloads/watchout/support/tweak/WATCHOUT-Codecs_for_stable_WATCHOUT_playback-2012-4.pdf /jonas

Kasper, WATCHNET controls the Display PC:s or cluster/s, any changes to your show is done through Production software. After talking Production software offline, then just re-load the show from WATCHNET. /jonas