jonathanpkpictures Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Is anyone using Watchout6 on Windows10. What about using Windows10 on a control machine and Windows7 on display machines? Is there a Windows10 tweaking list? Any insight is welcome. Thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Hugo Janzen Posted August 8, 2015 Member Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 You can share your expierences with Windows 10 on FaceBook group "Windows 10 Disasters". Great learning group, just started off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member mindopera Posted August 8, 2015 Member Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Hi Jonathan, great question. I have not yet used WO 6 and Windows 10 together, but I plan on upgrading a few machines to do some testing. I'll share my results when I get them. Please do the same if you test as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator jfk Posted August 9, 2015 Moderator Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 No there is no WATCHOUT Windows 10 tweak list. If it is anything like 8, someday 10.1 should come closer to the mark. From what I have read in other lists, you might want to be conservative. Nothing but negative comments, must common comments relate to slow down and crashing. Seems drivers become an issue, be sure you have Windows 10 certified drivers for all of your hardware (motherboard, all PCIe cards, drives, peripherals {even fancy keyboards}, etc) before even considering it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator jfk Posted August 9, 2015 Moderator Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 You can share your expierences with Windows 10 on FaceBook group "Windows 10 Disasters". Great learning group, just started off. did not see any smilies - damned if I can find that, search does not seem to work for groups, but Facebook is always a bit confusing to me. Is it not possible to provide a link for such a reference? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Fahl Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 I've done some initial tests, and it seems to work fine so far. There's a newer version of the dongle software (available from https://www.wibu.com/downloads-user-software.html),that explicitly supports Windows 10, which was released after WATCHOUT 6.0, so you may want to download and install that update after installing WATCHOUT (should be included in the next version). Please share your findings here. Oh; one quick note. If you want to make the display sofware auto-launch, it's a bit harder to find the Startup folder than it used to be. Here's a page that describes how to get to it: http://www.softwareok.com/?seite=faq-Windows-10&faq=28 Mike 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyedfred Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Hey hey, after my first work with WO6, I realized that some very important are not working as in version 5: Time ruler scrolling: Strg + Mousewheel Only works if mouse cursor is positioned at the bottom scrollbar of the timeline window. Timeline scrolling: Shift + Mousewheel Only works if mouse cursor is positioned at the bottom scrollbar of the timeline window. Double click to cue in stage window doesn't open media cue specifications. For me, these missing workflow tools are very disturbing, if I have to edit timelines in a short time. cheers, marco 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrik Svahnberg Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Time ruler scrolling: Strg + Mousewheel Only works if mouse cursor is positioned at the bottom scrollbar of the timeline window. It works, with the cursor anywhere in the timeline window. May I ask what Windows version you're using? It might also be worthwhile check out if you have any special mouse/mouse-wheel utility installed Timeline scrolling: Shift + Mousewheel Only works if mouse cursor is positioned at the bottom scrollbar of the timeline window. Same answer as above: It works! Double click to cue in stage window doesn't open media cue specifications. It works if you select the media and press Enter (but not with a double-click as you say) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyedfred Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Hey, I am working curently with Windows 10. Could be a problem with the OS. No additional mouse software installed. Only as HID device. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator jfk Posted August 11, 2015 Moderator Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Hey, I am working curently with Windows 10. Could be a problem with the OS. No additional mouse software installed. Only as HID device. With a generic HID driver and a mouse not acting as expected, you should look for a windows 10 driver from the mouse vendor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Fahl Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 We have been able to reproduce this problem under Windows 10. It appears to be caused by some new behavior introduced in Windows 10. To avoid this problem, go to Start-button, Settings, Devices, Mouse & touchpad and turn off “Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them”. The scroll wheel should now work as before in Watchout. Mike 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoustle Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I've been using Windows 10 and WO 6 on my Surface Pro just for preprogramming and previewing showfiles. There seems to be a memory leak somewhere that causes my computer to crash when running WO 6 (haven't tried 5 yet). The system isn't configured specifically for Watchout but I can't leave it sitting in the background for too long or my computer completely locks up. I've had the display driver crash as well. Another bug I've run into is that if I try to scroll layers the layers and the layer labels scroll independently of each other with the mouse scroll wheel. They then jump back to where they were before scrolling if any editting is done. Scrolling via the scroll bar works fine. This may be related to the other mouse scroll issues as I haven't tried changing that setting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator jfk Posted August 31, 2015 Moderator Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I've been using Windows 10 and WO 6 on my Surface Pro just for preprogramming and previewing showfiles. There seems to be a memory leak somewhere that causes my computer to crash when running WO 6 (haven't tried 5 yet). The system isn't configured specifically for Watchout but I can't leave it sitting in the background for too long or my computer completely locks up. I've had the display driver crash as well. It is pretty impressive that the Surface Pro supports accelerated DirectX 3D graphics and all the other sub-systems are DirectX compliant. Still that is a very high demand for such compact hardware. Now the question is just how well it supports DirectX. i.e. this really sounds like a hardware / driver issue, and memory leaks in immature drivers are not all that unusual. Yes, we have encountered bugs in WATCHOUT 6, but nothing that looks like a memory leak. Sounds like WATCHOUT is exercising portions of Windows on your hardware that are not commonly encountered with other applications, and that is bringing the hardware / driver issues to the forefront. Have you done any web searching on issues other users encounter with your chosen hardware? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Fahl Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Another bug I've run into is that if I try to scroll layers the layers and the layer labels scroll independently of each other with the mouse scroll wheel. They then jump back to where they were before scrolling if any editting is done. Scrolling via the scroll bar works fine. This may be related to the other mouse scroll issues as I haven't tried changing that setting. That's fixed by my comment above. Here it is again: It appears to be caused by some new behavior introduced in Windows 10. To avoid this problem, go to Start-button, Settings, Devices, Mouse & touchpad and turn off “Scroll inactive windows when I hover over them”. The scroll wheel should now work as before in Watchout. Mike 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borovayz Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 I picked up a gaming computer with Windows 10 installed with the hope of making it into an additional display computer, but I am getting the "Operating System Error: - 2147467259 unspecified error; Too complex effects" error. I've never encountered this before. Any thoughts? Zak 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Fahl Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 This indicates something's wrong with the graphics card driver. I've been using WATCHOUT on Win10 for quite some time, and it works fine. There are still some rough edges around some drivers, though. Particularly on laptops. Mike 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Scheck Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 I have the same error on a Win10 Display machine. It has a Radeon card (do not know which one) and I am pretty shure that the newest ATI drivers are loaded. What is the recommended procedure to get rid of the problem, deinstall and then reinstall the graphics driver? Zak, have you been able to solve the problem? If so, how? Regards, Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimAndersson Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I've used Win10 on the production computers at the Dataton HQ for some weeks and haven't found any major issues with it. You're welcome to report any issues that you're encountering while using Windows 10, I'll gladly investigate your reports. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Scheck Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Yes, I can confirm that WO 5 and 6 Production works great on Windows 10. With WO 5 I experienced that it was even more stable on Win10 that on Win 7 (same machine, after an upgrade from Win 7 to 10 there where no more hickups at all). But my question was about a Display-Computer. I needed a Display machine and only had a Win10 computer, so I installed the software and got the error ""Operating System Error: - 2147467259 unspecified error; Too complex effects" that Zak also had some time ago. I´ll give it a try today with changing the display card driver, if that doesn´t work, I´ll take a "real" display computer (Win7 tweaked to the WO-specs...). I was wondering if anybody else came across the same error and found a solution. Regards, Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Fahl Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 The "Too complex effects" error is definitely display driver related. WATCHOUT 6 runs fine on Win10. The only issue I'm aware of is the mouse wheen scrolling problem, which can be solved using a setting in Windows (discussed elsewhere on the forum). The WATCHOUT 6 User's Guide discusses installation and setup of Windows 10 (although it also supports Windows 7). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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